Dr. James Fitzsimmons

Right.

Usually what happens is the authorities, sort of the antiquities authorities, you know, usually try to create arrangements with locals and populations and things to like be able to see this material and to sort of take photos of it and at least have some sort of record of it because they know they can't.

You can't just like...

like arrest everybody.

Like, you can't just, you can't do that.

Like you can't really, then you go to a town or whatever.

And like, if everybody's got a piece of something, you can't just be like, oh, you know, it's also like, what is the law about like finding some old stuff?

It is.

I mean, where, where, you know, where they, where they tend to police more is in sort of the export of this stuff.

Right.

So like, you don't, it can't leave the country.

Um, you know, and, and that was sort of the, you know, people have this image of like archaeologists, like taking stuff out of country and it's, it's largely Indiana Jones, right.

Taking stuff out of country and such and bringing it to museums in the West or what have you.

Um, that is something that did happen.

Um, it has been illegal for a really long time.

Um, and you know, you're not supposed to,

really take anything out at all.

And even when we sort of want to take out something to sort of test it, sort of say radiocarbon or something like that, like you have to get, like there's a huge amount of paperwork that you have to do to sort of get through that, just to take out the pieces of carbon.

So that stuff stays in-house and should stay in-house.

That's how it's supposed to be.