Dr. James Fitzsimmons

I was in the first, my first big project that I was on as a grad student in the nineties where, um, you're eating gruel every day, um, either in either for breakfast, um,

Well, definitely for breakfast, but it might be for lunch too, right?

And just the thought of that, you know, it's some sort of corn gruel.

It doesn't seem like the most appetizing thing.

Yes, it's exactly, it's like that.

It's like a mashed up, it's a mashed up paste.

And it's like, what are you going to eat today?

I guess I'll eat, I guess I'll have some gruel today, you know?

And so to this day, like,

Um, those experiences when I've run projects now, I'm like very much like, no, we're going to have good food.

I can't stand it.

I can't stand it.

Right.

I suppose it does, but man, it is really uncomfortable.

So like, you know, like my wife will like, you know, make oatmeal or something like that.

I'm like, no.

Nope, nope, nope, nope, not doing it.

Right.

So like, you know, so that this sort of anytime I see anything like that in any culture, I'm like, oh, it's kanji or oh, it's, it's, it's, it's gruel or something like that.

I'm just like, please, no, like, I can't, I can't do it.