Dr. James Fitzsimmons

And I was sitting in a laundromat in Germany.

This was like three years ago.

I was sitting in a laundromat in Germany, and I was like waiting for my laundry to be done.

And I'm looking through Toad stuff, and you know...

I don't know if you ever read, uh, you know, uh, to a kid or anything like that.

Like you've ever read, uh, the frog and toad or friends series.

Yeah.

So we're on a bike together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so I was reading the frog and toad or friends stuff to my daughter, you know, at various points.

And this is like, maybe it's three years ago reading, reading, reading stuff to her.

And it was like, it was at the tail end of that.

Like they don't, you know, she's too big for that now.

Right.

Um, and I'm sitting at the laundromat and I started thinking about it and I'm like, I start, start Googling things.

And I figure out that those, those things there are actually eggs.

If you look at toads, uh, frogs and toads, frogs lay eggs in, um, like a, like a, uh, like a nest of eggs, right?

Toads lay them in strings.

And the toads that lay them in strings in Mesoamerica are these big bufo toads.