Dr. James Fitzsimmons

very conservative in terms of dress for women.

So it's unclear exactly what's going on there.

It could be erosion.

You know, the drawing is a drawing.

If she is topless, she's certainly covered, and they would never...

At least, you know, women, topless women in the Maya area are usually associated with like either small erotic pots.

Like they create what is effectively porn within the Maya civilization, but for ceramic pots.

They're like little things that are designed to be owned by private individuals, right?

Really?

Yeah, they do.

But there's like a shame around it as well.

Yeah.

Nudity and shame do go together in ancient my civilization, sure.

So you might get sort of examples of sort of in that case, or you might get figurines where they're talking about like female captives that are going to be bare-breasted, but generally not on a monument.

You wouldn't get that, especially not a ruler.

So I'm wary of it.

Interesting.

I don't really know much about it.

I've never done it.

Not from my part of the world where I work in, right?