Dr. James Hollis

And when I'm in touch with that, I feel that sense of wholeness and purposefulness.

When I'm out of it, it's when I start unraveling, so to speak.

And that's how we get exhausted and burned out and so forth.

So again, I use that word recollecting, remembering.

It's like pulling the pieces back together again in some way.

So what Shakespeare said, knitting the raveled sleeve of care, you see.

He was using the same metaphor of being unraveled in some way.

Oh, absolutely.

Because there's no room for the expression of whatever's wanting to be acknowledged within us when we're constantly responding to our environmental demands.

One of the things I try to do is walk a mile every day.

I've gone through some health issues in recent years.

And so I'm sort of in a physical recovery stage of life.

And I walk a mile a day, even though it's physically difficult.

And I find that revelatory because I'm focused on being present here rather than all of the distractions there.

And that's one of the things that I have found a form of meditation, if you will.

And what comes up for me is often surprising.

With a more authentic response to it, you see, because it's more likely to be coming out of me rather than simply being reactive.

I think that's the important thing.

That's right.

Well, I think, again, the issue is to still the traffic inside and be present to the moment in whatever way that is.