Dr. Jamil Zaki

Oh, and I should say, among the people who were cynical about these conversations and who forecasted that they would go poorly, was us, the research team. Louisa and I spent hours talking about what if people start to threaten each other or dox each other or look up each other's addresses.

Oh, and I should say, among the people who were cynical about these conversations and who forecasted that they would go poorly, was us, the research team. Louisa and I spent hours talking about what if people start to threaten each other or dox each other or look up each other's addresses.

You know, Andrew, that we have institutional review boards that make sure that we're keeping human subjects safe. And the IRB wanted all sorts of safeguards in place because we all thought that these conversations might go really poorly. After the conversations occurred, we asked folks who had taken part of them to rate how positive they were on a 1 to 100 scale.

You know, Andrew, that we have institutional review boards that make sure that we're keeping human subjects safe. And the IRB wanted all sorts of safeguards in place because we all thought that these conversations might go really poorly. After the conversations occurred, we asked folks who had taken part of them to rate how positive they were on a 1 to 100 scale.

You know, Andrew, that we have institutional review boards that make sure that we're keeping human subjects safe. And the IRB wanted all sorts of safeguards in place because we all thought that these conversations might go really poorly. After the conversations occurred, we asked folks who had taken part of them to rate how positive they were on a 1 to 100 scale.

And the most common, the modal response that people gave us was 100 out of 100. And it wasn't just that they liked the conversation. They were shocked by how much they liked the conversation. They also reported less negative emotion for the other side as a whole, not just for the person that they talked with.

And the most common, the modal response that people gave us was 100 out of 100. And it wasn't just that they liked the conversation. They were shocked by how much they liked the conversation. They also reported less negative emotion for the other side as a whole, not just for the person that they talked with.

And the most common, the modal response that people gave us was 100 out of 100. And it wasn't just that they liked the conversation. They were shocked by how much they liked the conversation. They also reported less negative emotion for the other side as a whole, not just for the person that they talked with.

And they reported more intellectual humility, more openness to questioning their own views. So here are conversations that we as a culture are actively avoiding because of our priors. Our priors are wrong given the data, but we don't know that and we don't give ourselves chances to learn that we're wrong because we don't collect the data.

And they reported more intellectual humility, more openness to questioning their own views. So here are conversations that we as a culture are actively avoiding because of our priors. Our priors are wrong given the data, but we don't know that and we don't give ourselves chances to learn that we're wrong because we don't collect the data.

And they reported more intellectual humility, more openness to questioning their own views. So here are conversations that we as a culture are actively avoiding because of our priors. Our priors are wrong given the data, but we don't know that and we don't give ourselves chances to learn that we're wrong because we don't collect the data.

And when we do collect the data, when we step in and take that leap of faith, take that social risk, we are shocked and humbled and feel more positive and maybe even feel a slightly greater sense of hope that there can be some way out of this toxic environment that we're all trapped in. Wow.

And when we do collect the data, when we step in and take that leap of faith, take that social risk, we are shocked and humbled and feel more positive and maybe even feel a slightly greater sense of hope that there can be some way out of this toxic environment that we're all trapped in. Wow.

And when we do collect the data, when we step in and take that leap of faith, take that social risk, we are shocked and humbled and feel more positive and maybe even feel a slightly greater sense of hope that there can be some way out of this toxic environment that we're all trapped in. Wow.

Andrew, this has been an absolutely delightful conversation. And I will say my forecast of it was very high and it has exceeded that forecast. I also just want to take a moment to thank you for your work as a science communicator, as somebody who believes in not just trying to generate knowledge, but also to share knowledge.

Andrew, this has been an absolutely delightful conversation. And I will say my forecast of it was very high and it has exceeded that forecast. I also just want to take a moment to thank you for your work as a science communicator, as somebody who believes in not just trying to generate knowledge, but also to share knowledge.

Andrew, this has been an absolutely delightful conversation. And I will say my forecast of it was very high and it has exceeded that forecast. I also just want to take a moment to thank you for your work as a science communicator, as somebody who believes in not just trying to generate knowledge, but also to share knowledge.

I think that it's absolutely one of the most important services that we can do as folks who have been trained and learned all this stuff to bring that information to as many people as we can. And I think it's just, it's an incredible mission and clearly has had such wonderful impact. So it's an honor to be part of that conversation and to be part of that effort.

I think that it's absolutely one of the most important services that we can do as folks who have been trained and learned all this stuff to bring that information to as many people as we can. And I think it's just, it's an incredible mission and clearly has had such wonderful impact. So it's an honor to be part of that conversation and to be part of that effort.

I think that it's absolutely one of the most important services that we can do as folks who have been trained and learned all this stuff to bring that information to as many people as we can. And I think it's just, it's an incredible mission and clearly has had such wonderful impact. So it's an honor to be part of that conversation and to be part of that effort.