Dr. Janice Stein

There...

There have been.

Here, let me come back to what I call the formers.

You know, the formers are a very powerful group because the formers are retired from their official positions, but they have friends in the other forms.

Three Eyes, written in Australia and New Zealand, there's always conversations that are going on amongst them.

And to some degree, they have a common problem now, which it's not only it's that the countries are not getting along at the political level, but the agencies in the United States were decapitated because Trump fired them.

When he came back, he went three levels down.

For example, in the CIA, anybody that he thought was involved in the Ukraine story, which was leaked about inappropriate behavior by him.

So there is a real worry that they don't trust in the same way.

They don't know to what use a far more politicized agency is going to put information that they share.

And that's a really sobering kind of concern.

In addition, Trump once or twice has publicly said enough so that anybody in the know can figure out who the source of the information was.

That is a crime among this group of people, frankly, when you betray a source.

You know, it's like you betraying a source or just closing a source that you promised you would keep off the record.

It just violates the most fundamental code of honor.

So my sense is...

Everybody is very cautious about what they share.

They're very careful.

Certainly, if any one of the four got information that there was any kind of plot against the United States in any way, they would share it immediately.

But there is an additional screen on the information that's being shared.