Dr. Janice Stein

So the person who defeated him, Peter Maxwell, was a member of his party.

Left in disgust at the corrupt

no better motivator I think for voters than obvious open corruption finally it actually disgusts voters when it becomes transparent that way and he campaigned that's his issue he campaigned on corruption and the destruction of core Hungarian institutions

Viktor Orban was Russia's door into Europe.

He vetoed the big package inside the European Union of financial aid to Ukraine.

They operate on the basis of consensus.

One vote.

That aid has been stalled inside the European Union because of Viktor Orban.

So for people looking at this, what's the magic mix here, right?

And in the streets of Budapest on Sunday night, and I'm really filled with people celebrating this because people had given up.

They thought this regime...

could last 30 years, frankly, and that Hungarian experiment in democracy, which is not old, given the fact that it was part of the Soviet Empire, was finished.

So what made this work?

Somebody from the center.

Somebody who...

Had credibility because he was a part of what had happened, but stood out and rejected it.

Took personal risk to do it.

And explicitly called out the corruption.

I think people, and then, to me, that absolutely astonishing thing, oh, they had gerrymandering, one other thing, which we've got in the United States right now, where they're gerrymandering the districts.

That happened in Hungary, too.