Dr. Jason Fung

Sour cream is another example.

So if you look at sour cream, it should have two ingredients, right?

It should have sort of cream and bacterial cultures, right?

That makes it sour.

Well, when I go to the grocery store, there's the sour cream, which is, you know, the natural one.

And then there's a whole lot, like there's five other ones that have guar gum and carrageenan and milk solids and all this stuff.

I'm like, what is this?

I just want sour cream.

So even when you look at it and think, okay, sour cream, that's not bad.

Or yogurt.

Oh, that's not bad.

But then when you actually look at it, it's actually very heavily processed.

And same thing with a lot of these supplements and powders and stuff, right?

Whey protein and stuff.

They sell them to you to try and make you feel better about yourself, but they're ultra processed, right?

It's not a natural sort of thing.

So you have to be kind of careful about a lot of foods to be what you think is pretty natural

Of course, they make it seem natural.

You know, the packaging will often make it natural, but a lot of them are actually ultra-processed foods.

Yeah, and I think this really speaks to the sort of conditioned hunger, that sort of social hunger, because you could take that Japanese person, plunk them down in San Francisco, and guess what?