Dr. Jason Fung

It was a disaster.

Like now you go and it's like, you can barely find margarine on the shelf because nobody's buying margarine.

It's like, no, because of the Lindy effect.

What's been around will likely be around and likely because it has validity.

Same thing with the golden rules.

They're not new rules.

They're old rules, right?

But we got to listen to that sort of old ancient wisdom if you want to avoid these sort of modern diseases like obesity.

No, I don't disagree with that.

And for sure, again, you have to go back to sort of which type of hunger are we really facing here, right?

Is it the physical homeostatic hunger?

And I'll tell you, like when you do fasting for long periods of time, right?

If you do fasting for like four or five days, right?

You start to feel that physical hunger.

And what I realized is that I actually don't feel it very often.

So therefore, it's the other types of hunger that typically drive it, right?

So that extra pour of extra virgin olive oil, it's like, what is it that's really...

What hunger is it that's really satisfying?

Is it the hedonic hunger or is it the conditioned hunger?

Which one is it?