Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

I thought that a data point or two would dispel fear and panic, especially if it's a real data point. And I turned out to be wrong about that. So I don't, I guess I'm a little gun shy about making any confident claims that we are beyond that now. Maybe. Yes, of course.

Well, Vanessa's film that you're about to interview, Vanessa Dillon, her film is fantastic, actually. And it has Redfield, and he's such an interesting figure. I mean, in 2020, I thought he was... I didn't know him. Personally, I would watch him on TV, and he would say things where I just didn't agree with him.

Well, Vanessa's film that you're about to interview, Vanessa Dillon, her film is fantastic, actually. And it has Redfield, and he's such an interesting figure. I mean, in 2020, I thought he was... I didn't know him. Personally, I would watch him on TV, and he would say things where I just didn't agree with him.

And I heard from Scott Atlas about his opinion of Redfield was not all that positive, I have to say. Then I met him in real life, and then I understood what happened. I think he was a hero, actually. I think he was a hero. I think he was trying to do his level best in a place where he was pushed aside by people like Tony Fauci.

And I heard from Scott Atlas about his opinion of Redfield was not all that positive, I have to say. Then I met him in real life, and then I understood what happened. I think he was a hero, actually. I think he was a hero. I think he was trying to do his level best in a place where he was pushed aside by people like Tony Fauci.

The head of the CDC did not actually design or control the pandemic response, which is a stunning thing to realize, but I think that's exactly what happened. And he did his level best to try to make his way, but it didn't work.

The head of the CDC did not actually design or control the pandemic response, which is a stunning thing to realize, but I think that's exactly what happened. And he did his level best to try to make his way, but it didn't work.

I mean, I think you're right that parts of the intelligence community thought that it might be a bioweapon. Certainly, a lot of the intelligence community thought that it was at least an unintentional leak of something that's quite dangerous. And, of course, you can't tell directly from the sequence of a virus, the genetic sequence of a virus, exactly the physiological effects that will happen.

I mean, I think you're right that parts of the intelligence community thought that it might be a bioweapon. Certainly, a lot of the intelligence community thought that it was at least an unintentional leak of something that's quite dangerous. And, of course, you can't tell directly from the sequence of a virus, the genetic sequence of a virus, exactly the physiological effects that will happen.

And so they just assume the worst.

And so they just assume the worst.

um and they they treated it like a military i mean like a a lockdown of the entire society that's not in normal public health plans normal health plans are it looks like the great barrington declaration it says protect vulnerable people and don't disrupt society don't fear monger maybe if you have a bioweapon attack you would you react that way i just i don't know i don't i don't have classified clearance i don't have any direct visibility but it was a extremely unusual thing if you think about it as just a public health intervention

um and they they treated it like a military i mean like a a lockdown of the entire society that's not in normal public health plans normal health plans are it looks like the great barrington declaration it says protect vulnerable people and don't disrupt society don't fear monger maybe if you have a bioweapon attack you would you react that way i just i don't know i don't i don't have classified clearance i don't have any direct visibility but it was a extremely unusual thing if you think about it as just a public health intervention

So that one, I read that. That's Jeffrey Tucker's article. It's interesting. So it's based on a CDC webpage that they put out during the pandemic. It's not my article. It's Jeffrey Tucker's, right? And I think that the plans were about what to do in humanitarian settings. What they mean by that is at the border where you have refugee camps or something like that.

So that one, I read that. That's Jeffrey Tucker's article. It's interesting. So it's based on a CDC webpage that they put out during the pandemic. It's not my article. It's Jeffrey Tucker's, right? And I think that the plans were about what to do in humanitarian settings. What they mean by that is at the border where you have refugee camps or something like that.

I don't think it was directly envisioned as a population-wide measure. I mean, there were places like in Australia, for instance, where they had camps, quarantine camps, like in, I think, Western Australia or Northern Territory or something. where they had quarantine camps.

I don't think it was directly envisioned as a population-wide measure. I mean, there were places like in Australia, for instance, where they had camps, quarantine camps, like in, I think, Western Australia or Northern Territory or something. where they had quarantine camps.

And so especially if you had COVID or you exposed someone with COVID, you'd be driven to this camp and it looked like a prison facility where you stay there for two, three, four weeks or whatever it is until you were tested negative sufficient number of times. So it's not that public health in the West didn't do this.

And so especially if you had COVID or you exposed someone with COVID, you'd be driven to this camp and it looked like a prison facility where you stay there for two, three, four weeks or whatever it is until you were tested negative sufficient number of times. So it's not that public health in the West didn't do this.

i don't think they were implanted in the united states i i'm not sure it was ambiguous i went back and read that web page after i saw jeffrey tucker's article and it's still unclear to me what the extent to which the plans were uh meant for the population at large rather than just just those uh those like refugee settings um as it is the direction Yeah.