Dr. Jeff Bland
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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And they're part of your innate immune system that are so important in fighting everything. And what seems to have happened is that we've had a suppression.
Yeah.
Because all the things we're doing are causing them to kind of decrease in number. That's right. And that's what Lyme disease, that's what COVID does. I've seen this in certain patients. It's pretty striking to see this. When you see across the spectrum of a population, particularly with long COVID, which is tens of millions of people in America, they're just, things are off.
Their immune system's off. And it's just a form of chronic fatigue syndrome. Like we had with maybe Epstein-Barr and other triggers for chronic fatigue. And it means that these people are less immune resilient and they're likely to have all sorts of symptoms and who knows what kind of diseases they're going to get. There are now therapies that are being looked at that provide natural killer cells.
There are now There's a lot of research going on around, for example, how to take natural killer cells from your body, grow them in a laboratory, inject them back into you as a way of fighting infections or fighting cancer. There's this sort of concept of a bio-shield that Patrick Soon-Shong has talked about.
He's an incredible physician researcher who's discovered a lot of these ways that we can treat cancer differently or treat infections differently. And so we're kind of in an era where our immune system... In one hand, it's actually now working well, some of the key surveillance mechanisms to deal with infections or deal with certain things we need to address.
And on the other hand, we're seeing an overactive immune system. So we're seeing both these under and overactive immune systems that seem to accelerate inflammation even more.
So what's really exciting is that we're now understanding how to intervene in this.
You know, you hear people, I want to boost my immune system, or my immune system's not working, or I'm like chronically ill, infections, I have a suppressed immune system. You know, there's something to all that, right? And I think, you know, we understand how the system works now. We understand what influences it, what harms it.
And it's the litany of things in modern civilization that are killing us all, right? The diet, the stress, the toxins, all the things we talked about, the increase in certain infections. And now we can intervene. So the question is, how do we start to think about this idea of immunorejuvenation to kind of reset our immune system?
Now, I want to say... So the key to unlocking healthy aging is to understand how to properly interact with our immune system.
And that's really predicted based on epigenetic testing of the expression of your genes and which genes are turned on or off in your immune system. And that's what we're doing now.
So basically the colorful compounds in foods, what we call phytochemicals, are part of a strategy to rejuvenate your immune system.
And those are plant medicines. They're things that actually the plants use for their own defense, but that we've evolved, co-evolved with, that actually regulate our biology in very specific ways and targeted pathways that we now understand.
No, I know. He had a famous quote, which discovery consists of seeing what everybody else has seen and thinking what nobody else has thought.
Yeah.
Your taste buds.
It just tastes different.
So given that and, you know, given that, you know, we have immune systems that are dysfunctional, given that we need, we are understanding the role of immune system and metabolic health and aging and how to rejuvenate our immune system. I want to sort of dive into a specific plant, which you've come to love. Do I ever? And you've spent, you know, better part of a decade, I think.
diving into the science around this and doing some extraordinary research. This is a plant that's called Himalayan Tartary Buckwheat. You've developed a company called Big Bolt Health, which I'm an investor and advisor to and very proud to be. It basically has taken this ancient plant, which turns out to have
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