Dr. Jeffrey McCune

We're luring these preachers into the closets of sexuality.

We're luring these businessmen into the bathhouses of the streets of blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like all of these mythologies that keep

Running wild.

And the D.O.

Whisperer is one of the people who, of course, advances that.

I think one of the productive ways is to understand that men who have sex with men who do not want to actually take on the moniker gay or bisexual is actually announcing to our community how the terms gay and bisexual are treated.

Right.

If, in fact, we lived in communities where in being gay and being bisexual was celebrated.

Yeah.

Was celebrated, was acknowledged, was seen.

If we could actually have that kind of community, then we would have folks who might be more able to be visible and public.

Now, I say might because folks who are discreet about any identity still have to answer to an anti-Black world that continues to police and surveil them and do violence.

But in the Black community, I think one of the things that we can do is create the conditions under which celebration happens.

is our first move as we think about people's articulations of identity.

Thank you so much, Brittany.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This is riveting.