Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon

So after about six months, I thought, I'm not going to do this anymore.

And that's when I went back to graduate school.

Those murders changed my life.

And one of the reasons maybe that they changed my life so dramatically is that

I mentioned a minute ago that the Manson stuff had occurred almost a decade before that correspondence.

A lot of members of the Manson family gotten up to my ears in that.

But that was the best.

That was almost a decade before.

Now, this double homicide, I feel like murder is following me around or something.

And I thought, well, I might as well embrace and become a forensic psychologist.

It's actually officially still a cold case.

They've never definitively tied him to the homicides, but... However.

However, I had lunch with the head homicide detective about... He's deceased now, but about a decade ago, and we talked about this in...

And he was the one who went looking for something that would have definitively tied this guy to the hospital murders and never found anything.

But what happened is that –

Like, let's see, the murders were on December 30th, 1983.

We're in spring of 1986 now.

So two and a half years later, I pick up the newspaper one day.

There's big screaming headlines.

Biggest shootout in FBI history.