Dr. Jen Gunter

You know, someone said to me, well, you know, taking shoes is, you know, that's the first step.

I'm like, again, pardon the pun.

I'm like, really?

Like how?

Yeah.

I mean, again, everything is nuanced.

And I think that one of the things that has happened is,

in the last few years, I don't know how long it's been happening, but our ability to have nuanced discussions and to sit down has become, I think, really difficult.

And I don't know if it's because we all spend so much time online that we have shorter attention spans to someone getting to the point.

You know, I see myself like that.

Sometimes I'll watch a video and I'm like, five seconds have gone by.

You know, like, you know, give me...

You know, I don't think I have an answer for that.

And I rarely listen to podcasts.

My husband loves them though, listens to them all the time.

And in fact, when I'm doing research for something, there's a podcast, he listens to it.

And then he gets me all the excerpts that I need and gives me the timestamps.

Um, you know, I, uh, some people like it and I do have to say sometimes, um, uh, there, you know, the few that I do listen to sometimes are super interesting.

Um, I just, I don't know.

I talk to people a lot all day.