Dr. Jen Gunter

Yeah.

I don't think nothing would happen, though.

So I actually believe that you are correct, that if every single person, every single dean, if every dean said, we have to stand up and do this, but are they going to do that?

That's the whole thing.

Do you trust these people to do that?

And I'm going to give you an example about how I was sold out by a dean.

So I used to work at the University of Kansas and I was one of the few people in the states that could do abortions at any gestational age.

And

Kansas used to have no gestational age limit.

So it's a leftover from other times.

I think when the, I was told the previous chair of the department had a lot of information on politicians.

So just leave it at that.

That was the rumor.

How true, I don't know.

And so, you know, so I would see lots of people with, you know, fetal anomalies and other issues, but I also see people with catastrophic complications who could only have their abortion done at a tertiary care medical center.

Because you can't go to a clinic when you're an adult with an inadequately repaired congenital cardiac disease who'd never been told you shouldn't get pregnant and now you're eight weeks in a cardiac failure, right?

So those are the kind of people that we'd see.

The medical school, the university, or the hospital, get the entities right.

The hospital was suffering financially.

And some of this was related to whatever, how the states allocate funds and buying and all kinds of complicated things.