Dr. Jen Gunter

Well, that's because you're not a psychopath, so you don't get it.

No, seriously.

I mean, the hypocrisy of, oh, we're going to ban ultra-processed foods, but here's my influencer code for AG1 Greens.

And hey, I have a protein bar that you can buy.

Like, wait a minute, that's ultra-processed.

Oh my God.

I had a podcast back in the day, a while back.

I interviewed him.

He's amazing.

He's, you know, losing somebody like that.

Like if you really cared about ultra processed foods, if you really cared about.

Like, I mean, and I wouldn't be happy about people taking money from cancer research.

Don't get me wrong.

But if it was all going to fund legitimate labs, it would be a harder discussion.

And we can still say, Hey, that's not fair.

But, um, and so, yeah, I mean, it's, Kevin is, you know, amazing.

His work is amazing.

He's incredibly ethical.

He's one of those people that only says, you know, he, he speaks a lot and well, we don't know, but then let's ask this question and let's take the next step.

And the idea that this metabolic lab that he had, like, it just doesn't exist anywhere else.