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Dr. Jennifer Groh

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Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So we wanted to know if any of these little sounds were being generated with eye movements.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And I wouldn't be here telling you this story if it didn't turn out that, yes, they do.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So we were able to measure that the eardrum is basically moving in connection with every eye movement, every saccadic eye movement.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

These are the fast jerky eye movements.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

There's other kinds of eye movements and we haven't yet tested them.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

The signal is very precisely time locked to the onset of the eye movement.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And the effect is different in the two ears so that if your eyes are moving to the left, the eardrum on the right is going to kind of bulge inward, then outward, then inward.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

I might have this backwards.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

But whatever the right ear is doing, the left ear is doing the opposite so that the eardrums are going to be moving in the same direction.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

One is going to be inward when the other is going outward.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

Like a wave, exactly.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

Like a wave, not like a... Not like flapping.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

Not like flapping, exactly.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

You know, we're still actually at pretty early days in understanding this process and what it's for, but it's a very precise signal.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

It turns out to carry information about how far the eyes are moving to the left or to the right, as well as a bit less, but some information about vertical movements as well.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And we think that this may be kind of the first step in that integration of visual and auditory information.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

Right, or help you stay oriented, like with respect to like knowing what's up and what's down and staying upright.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

I think it's all part of an integrated system.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

You know, we talked about the top-down control over the ear, but there's a lot of top-down control over vision, too.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And some of it is a little easier to understand than what I just described because blinking is top-down control over vision.