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Dr. Jennifer Groh

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Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And I think one of some of my favorite videos for, you know, for really appreciating this is our videos of actual ventriloquists working with their puppets.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

Because there they are, you know, the puppeteer is speaking and they're making it seem like the puppet is speaking.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And they're making our perceptions switch back and forth from their own face to the puppet face, back and forth, depending on what they're actually saying.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

Yeah, they try to speak like this without moving their lips too much.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And they sometimes will do a trick of like, there are certain sounds that you just cannot make without closing your lips in front.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And that's really...

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

hard to fool people about.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So for example, if it's a word that begins with a B or has a B in it, they might subtly just cover their mouth a little bit while they're making that B sound so that it's a kind of misdirection like a magician would do to sort of keep you from attending too much to the ventriloquist.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

and throw your attention over to the puppet.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So our perception can switch back and forth between where our brains are telling us this is the most likely candidate for the source of this sound.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So I'm gonna override what my ears are telling me to perceive the sound as coming from here versus here.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

It has to be learned and it has to be continuously updated during the course of development until you reach your adult body size.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So let me back up a little bit and talk about how do we localize sound, especially when we're not talking about, you know, screens and video and movies and whatnot, but just like out there in the real world.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

The way we tell where a sound is coming from is by the physics of the world causing differential delays for the sound to arrive at one ear versus the other.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So sound takes a certain amount of time.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

You know, a sound coming from over here will get to this ear before it gets to this ear.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

And it'll be slightly louder in this ear than in this one.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

It's closer, but also there's a kind of acoustic shadow cast by the head.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

So the sound wave has to kind of come and then go around and there's a little, you know, there's a little sort of dip in the sound intensity cast by the shadow of the head.

Huberman Lab
How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

I like to think about the timing cues because they're really easy to calculate.