Dr. Jessica Venner

And that sounds very dramatic.

But putting into words the disaster that they were experiencing, the fallout from that, the chaos, the panic.

It was very, very hard to come to terms with.

I was in bits.

I was crying every couple of days because I sort of put myself in the position of people that we've got records of today in tragedy and watching videos of events and trying to understand the very human element of that.

And you have to put a lot of yourself into that.

And so it was hard to write about their fates, but really important to know that

Yes, people did survive this, as we mentioned.

It's only about 8% to 11%, which, considering the scale of this disaster, touch wood, that's what it remains at.

But there's still a third of the city to be excavated.

So we are, you know, we will see.

The Lost Voices of Pompeii, and it is out now.

Fantastic.

Thank you so much.

It's been a pleasure.