Dr. Jocelyn Wittstein

And some of my fellows are now doing this.

And so I just think that because men don't go through menopause, like they're not going to experience this.

They just they don't have the same lived experiences.

They may have less awareness of this connection.

But I think, you know, I'm trying to educate women.

my, my trainees.

And there, I can't tell you how many of my, you know, her Instagram is excellent.

My male orthopedic residents are, they come out of a room telling me someone's like menopausal history and whether or not they're on hormone therapy as part of the orthopedic history, which is really cool.

But yeah, but for patients, I think,

if you're feeling dismissed or someone isn't listening to you, I mean, it's okay to get another opinion.

Like, don't feel like you're, you know, stuck with one person.

And I just, I think what happens is it's hard when an x-ray is normal and MRI is pretty normal, but you're having increased joint pain.

You know, we've talked about some of the things you can use, an anti-inflammatory diet, certain supplements, things like that.

But I just think

taking a look at the whole person and collaborating.

Stop siloing.

Stop siloing, collaborate with women's health.

I'm not saying that magically going to hormone therapy is going to make your knee pain feel better.

And that's what we're trying to study.

But I think we need to kind of look at women as a whole person, not like a knee.