Dr. Joel Warsh

Next, the way that research was done, I was very surprised at how things haven't been inert placebo-controlled trial. And going back through the research and going back through the history and the data, how we really didn't have the best trials a long time ago. And we're basing a lot on that.

Yeah, they're rigged. Or they're just done in the way that they were done back then. And they weren't as rigorous as that.

Yeah, they're rigged. Or they're just done in the way that they were done back then. And they weren't as rigorous as that.

Yeah, they're rigged. Or they're just done in the way that they were done back then. And they weren't as rigorous as that.

I found, listening to Aaron Ceres, his lawyer, some of his trials and some of the depositions of different individuals like Stanley Plotkin and Kathleen Edwards, just very eye-opening in terms of just asking them questions and getting their honest opinions on vaccines and how the research was done in the past. I think that was really interesting because... So can you unpack that?

I found, listening to Aaron Ceres, his lawyer, some of his trials and some of the depositions of different individuals like Stanley Plotkin and Kathleen Edwards, just very eye-opening in terms of just asking them questions and getting their honest opinions on vaccines and how the research was done in the past. I think that was really interesting because... So can you unpack that?

I found, listening to Aaron Ceres, his lawyer, some of his trials and some of the depositions of different individuals like Stanley Plotkin and Kathleen Edwards, just very eye-opening in terms of just asking them questions and getting their honest opinions on vaccines and how the research was done in the past. I think that was really interesting because... So can you unpack that?

So Stanley Plotkin is one of the founders of vaccines, a brilliant guy, one of the founders of the rubella vaccine. And he's been involved in multiple trials. And I listened to his trial with Aaron Seery on it was a religious exemption.

So Stanley Plotkin is one of the founders of vaccines, a brilliant guy, one of the founders of the rubella vaccine. And he's been involved in multiple trials. And I listened to his trial with Aaron Seery on it was a religious exemption.

So Stanley Plotkin is one of the founders of vaccines, a brilliant guy, one of the founders of the rubella vaccine. And he's been involved in multiple trials. And I listened to his trial with Aaron Seery on it was a religious exemption.

case and it's just really interesting to hear him discuss the use of aborted fetal tissue back when they were doing the research and how they were doing the research many years ago and how many fetuses they were using and just the way that they were studying things back 50 or 60 years ago is really interesting.

case and it's just really interesting to hear him discuss the use of aborted fetal tissue back when they were doing the research and how they were doing the research many years ago and how many fetuses they were using and just the way that they were studying things back 50 or 60 years ago is really interesting.

case and it's just really interesting to hear him discuss the use of aborted fetal tissue back when they were doing the research and how they were doing the research many years ago and how many fetuses they were using and just the way that they were studying things back 50 or 60 years ago is really interesting.

It wouldn't pass the ethical review, and there is still an ongoing debate about religious freedom and religious exemptions with vaccines and whether the use of aborted tissue should be considered in that, as of right now, all religions technically state that you can get vaccines and there's nothing problematic about it.

It wouldn't pass the ethical review, and there is still an ongoing debate about religious freedom and religious exemptions with vaccines and whether the use of aborted tissue should be considered in that, as of right now, all religions technically state that you can get vaccines and there's nothing problematic about it.

It wouldn't pass the ethical review, and there is still an ongoing debate about religious freedom and religious exemptions with vaccines and whether the use of aborted tissue should be considered in that, as of right now, all religions technically state that you can get vaccines and there's nothing problematic about it.

But when you look at the way that things were done originally and using aborted fetal tissue, then it does at least bring up that discussion. And I think that whether your church says that it's okay to get vaccines, that you still might personally feel like that's unethical to you. And I just thought that was interesting because I never considered any of that before.

But when you look at the way that things were done originally and using aborted fetal tissue, then it does at least bring up that discussion. And I think that whether your church says that it's okay to get vaccines, that you still might personally feel like that's unethical to you. And I just thought that was interesting because I never considered any of that before.

But when you look at the way that things were done originally and using aborted fetal tissue, then it does at least bring up that discussion. And I think that whether your church says that it's okay to get vaccines, that you still might personally feel like that's unethical to you. And I just thought that was interesting because I never considered any of that before.

I mean, I really didn't even know that aborted fetal tissue was in there until you start learning about vaccines. I mean, these are just things that they're not aborting fetuses now, they're using old old aborted fetal tissue. But it just brings into question when people are called anti-vax kooks, well, maybe they have a reason why they're concerned.