Dr. Joel Warsh

How do we bridge that divide to bring honesty back and trust back in the system and to hear what concerns parents have and not to vilify them or to call them anti-vax, but to listen to what their concerns are so that way we can address those concerns, get the research that we need to either disprove what they're saying or to make some changes to make the vaccine safer, whatever it is.

How do we bridge that divide to bring honesty back and trust back in the system and to hear what concerns parents have and not to vilify them or to call them anti-vax, but to listen to what their concerns are so that way we can address those concerns, get the research that we need to either disprove what they're saying or to make some changes to make the vaccine safer, whatever it is.

How do we bridge that divide to bring honesty back and trust back in the system and to hear what concerns parents have and not to vilify them or to call them anti-vax, but to listen to what their concerns are so that way we can address those concerns, get the research that we need to either disprove what they're saying or to make some changes to make the vaccine safer, whatever it is.

But we're vilifying people for talking about it. And that creates this system where people don't want to do anything with medicine anymore. They don't want to go to doctors. They don't trust anything. And that is bad. Look at the COVID vaccine rates right now. I mean, you're talking like 10% for kids getting the vaccine this year. with a recommendation from the CDC.

But we're vilifying people for talking about it. And that creates this system where people don't want to do anything with medicine anymore. They don't want to go to doctors. They don't trust anything. And that is bad. Look at the COVID vaccine rates right now. I mean, you're talking like 10% for kids getting the vaccine this year. with a recommendation from the CDC.

But we're vilifying people for talking about it. And that creates this system where people don't want to do anything with medicine anymore. They don't want to go to doctors. They don't trust anything. And that is bad. Look at the COVID vaccine rates right now. I mean, you're talking like 10% for kids getting the vaccine this year. with a recommendation from the CDC.

That means that people don't trust the CDC anymore. If half of kids are getting flu shots and 10% are getting COVID shots and 20% of adults are getting COVID shots, then there's this distrust of the things that the CDC are recommending. And that is very bad. We need to have our establishments there to protect us and to provide us information.

That means that people don't trust the CDC anymore. If half of kids are getting flu shots and 10% are getting COVID shots and 20% of adults are getting COVID shots, then there's this distrust of the things that the CDC are recommending. And that is very bad. We need to have our establishments there to protect us and to provide us information.

That means that people don't trust the CDC anymore. If half of kids are getting flu shots and 10% are getting COVID shots and 20% of adults are getting COVID shots, then there's this distrust of the things that the CDC are recommending. And that is very bad. We need to have our establishments there to protect us and to provide us information.

And if we don't trust what they're saying, it's like the boy who cried wolf. What happens next year or the year after where something does come out that we need to be listening to and everybody decides, eh, I don't trust the CDC. They don't know what they're talking about. And then we don't do the things that we need to do. So that's very concerning to me, and we have to take that seriously.

And if we don't trust what they're saying, it's like the boy who cried wolf. What happens next year or the year after where something does come out that we need to be listening to and everybody decides, eh, I don't trust the CDC. They don't know what they're talking about. And then we don't do the things that we need to do. So that's very concerning to me, and we have to take that seriously.

And if we don't trust what they're saying, it's like the boy who cried wolf. What happens next year or the year after where something does come out that we need to be listening to and everybody decides, eh, I don't trust the CDC. They don't know what they're talking about. And then we don't do the things that we need to do. So that's very concerning to me, and we have to take that seriously.

It's such a problematic setup for safety and research. It's great that we have more vaccines. I mean, that's a good thing. We want to protect against diseases that we can protect against. But the issue is we have this system now that protects the companies. They were going out of business in the 1980s.

It's such a problematic setup for safety and research. It's great that we have more vaccines. I mean, that's a good thing. We want to protect against diseases that we can protect against. But the issue is we have this system now that protects the companies. They were going out of business in the 1980s.

It's such a problematic setup for safety and research. It's great that we have more vaccines. I mean, that's a good thing. We want to protect against diseases that we can protect against. But the issue is we have this system now that protects the companies. They were going out of business in the 1980s.

They were threatening to go out of business, especially around what you were saying and also the DTP vaccine. There were a lot of lawsuits.

They were threatening to go out of business, especially around what you were saying and also the DTP vaccine. There were a lot of lawsuits.

They were threatening to go out of business, especially around what you were saying and also the DTP vaccine. There were a lot of lawsuits.

around that they had to stabilize the market in some way and that's what they decided to do to take their liability away but the problem with that is if you take away the liability they have no incentive to make them better and they have every incentive to get a vaccine on the market they have every incentive to get something on the schedule and they have so much money and so much power and that has grown over the last 40 years to the point where they're bigger than many countries i mean they have just so much money they know what they're doing

around that they had to stabilize the market in some way and that's what they decided to do to take their liability away but the problem with that is if you take away the liability they have no incentive to make them better and they have every incentive to get a vaccine on the market they have every incentive to get something on the schedule and they have so much money and so much power and that has grown over the last 40 years to the point where they're bigger than many countries i mean they have just so much money they know what they're doing