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Dr. John Bergsma

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Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Why should I be surprised if Mrs. Jesus through the centuries has come to positions that I don't immediately understand?

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Why should I think that I have everything right and that Christ's church, which he established, you know, has no thoughts that go beyond what my thoughts have ever been.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So I made an act of faith.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

I do believe this is the true church.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

I do believe that the church participates in the authority of Christ.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So I'm going to submit my intellect to the church and I'm going to trust.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And that is faith seeking understanding.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

That was a typically Augustinian move.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

It's like, don't understand it yet, but I will believe it or I will...

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And that's what trust is.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Trust oftentimes is not something that after you go through a whole bunch of rationalization, you completely understand.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

You trust people, et cetera, that involves a little bit of risk.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So it's like, I'm gonna trust Mrs. Jesus

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

that she's right on this, even if I can't understand it completely myself.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

Then later, within about two years of becoming Catholic, kind of all fell into place and the papal doctrines, the Marian doctrines and so on.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

So if people are feeling like, oh, I got to get this completely figured out before I can become Catholic.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

And what if I never get it figured out?

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

It's like the church doesn't require that of you.

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

The church only requires that you not publicly oppose it

Pints With Aquinas
Your Protestant Objections ANSWERED (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 583

and that you submit your intellect to the church with an act of trust.