Dr. John Bergsma

Yeah, it's self-staltifying because it basically holds everything we need to know is taught in scripture, but scripture itself doesn't teach that scripture has everything that we need to know.

So yeah, it's self-referentially incoherent.

Well, it's this simple gospel thing.

It's similar to what another questioner raised up earlier.

It's like, well, I know Jesus died for me.

All right.

Can you read it for us?

Yeah, it says, Now I would remind you, brethren, in what terms I preached to you the gospel which you received, in which you stand, by which you are saved, if you hold it fast, unless you believed in vain.

For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures.

Yes and amen.

Of course, what are the Scriptures?

What books are scriptural?

That's an interesting question.

We would have to appeal to tradition to find that out.

that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve, then he appeared to more than 500 brethren at one time, most of whom are still alive, some have fallen asleep.

Then he appeared to James and to all the apostles.

Last of all, as to untimely born, he appeared to me, for I am the least of the apostles, unfit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

And then in verse 11 says,

Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believe.

I think my understanding of that objection, Matt, was that the person is saying, this is all it is.