Dr. John Bergsma

The logos is Christ.

They are, you know, uh, mysterious Christians.

Yeah.

Just that they might be.

Opens.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's.

Holds up with a possibility for that.

That's really helpful.

Yeah, that has not been my experience.

That's not how I see reality, either as a Protestant or as a Catholic.

When you look at the history of Protestant denominations, there you truly get a situation where anything is up for grabs.

I mean, compare what the Episcopalians believed 150 years ago versus what they believe and what they're doing now.

You know, it's such a radically different thing.

But

Conversely, look at what the Catholic Church teaches now and what she taught in the early centuries.

One of the major factors of my conversion was that when my friend Michael got me to read the Apostolic Fathers, and I was working through Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, thanks be to God, I had enough theological formation to realize that as I was reading through these guys,

that they were affirming all of the basic axioms of Catholic theology.

I remember literally thinking to myself, if you just give me the principles that Ignatius of Antioch accepts, I can derive the rest of Catholicism down to what it is today from those axioms.