Dr. John Bergsma

And so I wanted to propose to her and I was just casually...

talking to Stan about it one day saying because you know because Back then this was actually before Dave and so I was very stupid with money so I didn't have the money to buy a ring for for Lauren and so I so I was just kind of kind of venting to him about it one day didn't really think anything of it and then

Probably about two, three days later, he actually drags me to one of the conference rooms.

He says, come here, come here, come here.

So we go to one of the conference rooms and he gives me a box and he says, here you go.

I said, okay.

So I open it up and it's a really nice ring and he just tells me, you marry that girl right now.

just like that yep yep so he gave you he gave you the engagement ring yes he did wow that's cool yeah he was um um because i was just floored and i said stan did you buy this and he said oh no no no i i um i upgraded my my wife's ring so you can have that one and i'm like oh my gosh

Oh, we just try to find just, you know, like every opportunity.

My wife's very good with discernment.

And so, like, when she tells me we need to –

to give somebody money or to help them out, help them move.

I always listen to her and say, okay, you know what you're doing.

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