Dr. John Deloney (Host)

Would you ever say to – would you ever rub it into Mick that he never won at pie?

That's pretty fair.

You were saying like –

I think just before around how you were perceived and sort of the social chatter around your career up until 2012, like you'd been a bridesmaid.

2009, people thought maybe you were a bit bitter about it and stuff like that.

Did it shift completely after you won in 2012, like public perception from your perspective?

and is that what from the pressure or the nerves are like yes i just my i'll put it on for fun but i'd never surf for points or you know is that is that partly like because that competitive animal that killer that like do you not like that version of yourself or is it like too much to handle exactly i don't know it's just that like

Like in terms of your preparation.

And would you, would you like talk to Mick around like the mental stuff and stuff like that?

Like what was your relationship like on tour from a, obviously you were competing, but you obviously grew up, you know, best bud, you grew up here around here.

Like, would you lead on each other for advice?

Was it pretty separate?

mate pretty special like if you think about it growing up and making the two and winning world titles with your mate from childhood like what are the chances of that happening just like insanely rare do you ever you ever like reflect on how random that is for sure and i remember when we were groms like we were young i thought because rabbit bartholomew that lived here

Yeah.

It's interesting.

It's very interesting.

Do any of the young boys on tour now, or the boys on tour now, do they lean on you for advice ever, like Ethan or Jack?

Not so much.

Can the boys break through?

It's been a little wait for us on the male side.