Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

and it's fun not only to reconnect with you, but specifically to do so over Dante.

There's this strange thing, it may have been Peter, it may have been some of my other medieval professors who have given this to me, but there's a special kind of club that the study of Dante kind of promotes, and some of it is about teachers and students, about

virgils and guides and then this wonderful place where you turn over from being the student to being the teacher and to being the maestro for others.

You and I, every time I teach Dante and I get to do it yearly as a part of the humanities core classes that we have at Redeemer, I think of you and I think of how

It is fun that I get to teach out of the things that we've had conversations about.

So this is pure joy for me.

question, and I don't remember offhand.

I'll give two, partly because I can, and partly because, in some senses, your own book about beauty always inspires me to get thinking about what my notions of beauty really are.

And that has mellowed, I think, with age and teaching and lots of experiences with my students.

And I think

The first one is a childhood one, being a child of the Pacific Northwest.

My first serious image of God was the ocean, the Pacific Ocean.

And there is still, I have told my family that if God takes me home at some point, you will find my spirit on the central Oregon coast.

It will be in a couple of places where God and his wondrous creativity has brought kind of stark cliffs right down on the ocean.

There's

crazy waves that can happen in there.

But my favorite kind of image is actually on a crystal clear day.

And that doesn't happen very often on the coast.

Usually it's wet and rainy, but when it's clear,

the horizon blends with the skyline.