Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And just these three lines are loaded.

I mean, this is Aeneid 6.

This is the moment when Aeneas is in the underworld.

He's been granted a special dispensation, just like Dante, even though Dante said in Inferno 2, I am not Aeneas and I'm not Paul.

He actually is Paul and Aeneas.

And we're seeing that here.

He comes in and in this moment invokes the scene where Aeneas engages his father.

And it's a very difficult scene in a lot of ways.

I lost my father three years ago, and this plays very powerfully.

Aeneas goes to hug him three times and gets there.

And there's the sense of the separation between the living and the dead.

This meeting is a little different, right?

This is actually, again, a disembodied meeting of kind, and yet there's the implication that this is going to be real.

This is going to be a real reunion at some point.

And so...

At this moment, we get Latin, which is always a signal to us from Dante that something here is important and something usually virgili of origin.

It says, oh, my blood, oh, poured out from above grace of God, to whom, as to you, has the gate of heaven ever been opened twice?

Catechreta looks at him and goes, what are you doing?

And I think the powerful thing that begins to happen here, Dante, in a very real way, is a

is an outsider in heaven.