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Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

This is from The Weight of Glory.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And if you haven't ever read The Weight of Glory, it is absolutely worth a half an hour or an hour to sit down and read the entirety of this thing.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

It's absolutely amazing.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

But this is, he's talking about

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

about beauty and about desire and about how these two things are related.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And he says, we as human beings want so much more, something the books on aesthetics take little notice of, but the poets and the mythologies know all about it.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

We do not merely want to see beauty, though God knows even that is bounty enough.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

We want something else which can hardly be put into words to be united with the beauty.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

To pass into it, to receive it, into ourselves, to bathe in it, to become part of it, to have angelic honey dripped on us in the road.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Like, this is the heart and soul of what our faith is driving towards.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

The incorporation of ourselves with the things that are beautiful.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Not yet, but still to come.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

There's a power, I think, and one of the things about Canto 33 that I think is so moving, and I didn't pick these things up in my initial reads of it.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

There's several references in there to leaves, to folia.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And for those of us who know the manuscript culture of the Middle Ages, leaves are a sign, if you will, of books and of learned writing.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And he uses in that moment another Virgilian metaphor.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

I mean, it's so appropriate that he ends, in some senses, with a Virgilian metaphor there as well.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

About the leaves, when the Sybil gives her prophecies, and especially the one that she will give to Aeneas about his future,

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

we get this sense that what Virgil talks about is how the musings of the Sybil are like scattered pages.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And I think Dante's book gets scattered here at the very end because what he is seeing is so magnificent.