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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1522 total appearances

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

If you lie in your own defense or falsify your speech, you're in serious trouble. And if you apologize, a different mob will just come for you. That'll be the post-apology mob that comes for you. It's not a good idea. So what we've been outlining here is the fact that if you're in serious social peril, there's two outcomes. One is that

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

If you lie in your own defense or falsify your speech, you're in serious trouble. And if you apologize, a different mob will just come for you. That'll be the post-apology mob that comes for you. It's not a good idea. So what we've been outlining here is the fact that if you're in serious social peril, there's two outcomes. One is that

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

If you lie in your own defense or falsify your speech, you're in serious trouble. And if you apologize, a different mob will just come for you. That'll be the post-apology mob that comes for you. It's not a good idea. So what we've been outlining here is the fact that if you're in serious social peril, there's two outcomes. One is that

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Perversely enough, in retrospect, it might turn out to be an opportunity and one you wouldn't forego now that you know the consequences. That's not impossible, but it's difficult. The other one is, is you're seriously done. And so then the question is, what can you do to maximize the possibility of the former and minimize the latter? And those are some things that I know. So, okay, okay.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Perversely enough, in retrospect, it might turn out to be an opportunity and one you wouldn't forego now that you know the consequences. That's not impossible, but it's difficult. The other one is, is you're seriously done. And so then the question is, what can you do to maximize the possibility of the former and minimize the latter? And those are some things that I know. So, okay, okay.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Perversely enough, in retrospect, it might turn out to be an opportunity and one you wouldn't forego now that you know the consequences. That's not impossible, but it's difficult. The other one is, is you're seriously done. And so then the question is, what can you do to maximize the possibility of the former and minimize the latter? And those are some things that I know. So, okay, okay.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

So let's back up a bit then. We still haven't exactly described why the cancellation attempts weren't successful for you. Now, you said you demonstrated your ability to keep a calm head under fire and that you did that well enough so the university actually recognized that and that turned out to be of substantive benefit to you.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

So let's back up a bit then. We still haven't exactly described why the cancellation attempts weren't successful for you. Now, you said you demonstrated your ability to keep a calm head under fire and that you did that well enough so the university actually recognized that and that turned out to be of substantive benefit to you.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

So let's back up a bit then. We still haven't exactly described why the cancellation attempts weren't successful for you. Now, you said you demonstrated your ability to keep a calm head under fire and that you did that well enough so the university actually recognized that and that turned out to be of substantive benefit to you.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

But we don't know why it was that you maintained a calm head under fire or how you did that without... Well, having the reputation damage that was certainly directly implied by the accusation take you out. Like, do you have, was it good fortune? Were there things you did right? Like, how do you assess that?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

But we don't know why it was that you maintained a calm head under fire or how you did that without... Well, having the reputation damage that was certainly directly implied by the accusation take you out. Like, do you have, was it good fortune? Were there things you did right? Like, how do you assess that?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

But we don't know why it was that you maintained a calm head under fire or how you did that without... Well, having the reputation damage that was certainly directly implied by the accusation take you out. Like, do you have, was it good fortune? Were there things you did right? Like, how do you assess that?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Two weeks.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Two weeks.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Two weeks.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

And people forget. That's the weird thing, because the present is so large. Yes. You're going to panic. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Don't panic. Don't panic. That's right. Don't panic. Don't assume that it's going to be successful. That's right. Because people... They might be interested in you today, but they weren't interested in you yesterday. They probably won't be interested in you tomorrow.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

And people forget. That's the weird thing, because the present is so large. Yes. You're going to panic. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Don't panic. Don't panic. That's right. Don't panic. Don't assume that it's going to be successful. That's right. Because people... They might be interested in you today, but they weren't interested in you yesterday. They probably won't be interested in you tomorrow.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

And people forget. That's the weird thing, because the present is so large. Yes. You're going to panic. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Don't panic. Don't panic. That's right. Don't panic. Don't assume that it's going to be successful. That's right. Because people... They might be interested in you today, but they weren't interested in you yesterday. They probably won't be interested in you tomorrow.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Let me add something to that. Yeah, yeah. No, not if you genuinely believe it, because you might not be your own best defender. That's why you have a Fifth Amendment. No, seriously. Conscientious... Guilt-prone people will accuse themselves. So then I would say, if you feel that you've done something wrong, remember the presumption of innocence before provable guilt. Remember that.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Let me add something to that. Yeah, yeah. No, not if you genuinely believe it, because you might not be your own best defender. That's why you have a Fifth Amendment. No, seriously. Conscientious... Guilt-prone people will accuse themselves. So then I would say, if you feel that you've done something wrong, remember the presumption of innocence before provable guilt. Remember that.