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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1522 total appearances

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The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Things could collapse utterly, and that's where you get a kind of nihilistic depression, or the next most powerful forces will emerge. And I think it's inevitable that those are something like hedonistic sexuality and power. I mean, what else? What the hell else would rule when you remove, let's say, sovereign self-sacrifice as the highest order principle?

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Things could collapse utterly, and that's where you get a kind of nihilistic depression, or the next most powerful forces will emerge. And I think it's inevitable that those are something like hedonistic sexuality and power. I mean, what else? What the hell else would rule when you remove, let's say, sovereign self-sacrifice as the highest order principle?

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Things could collapse utterly, and that's where you get a kind of nihilistic depression, or the next most powerful forces will emerge. And I think it's inevitable that those are something like hedonistic sexuality and power. I mean, what else? What the hell else would rule when you remove, let's say, sovereign self-sacrifice as the highest order principle?

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Well, you also laid out a remarkable point narrative accomplishment by the editors of the biblical story because The story starts out, of course, with creation and the establishment of man and woman, and then the fall, and the fall is a consequence of overweening pride and overreach, right?

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Well, you also laid out a remarkable point narrative accomplishment by the editors of the biblical story because The story starts out, of course, with creation and the establishment of man and woman, and then the fall, and the fall is a consequence of overweening pride and overreach, right?

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Well, you also laid out a remarkable point narrative accomplishment by the editors of the biblical story because The story starts out, of course, with creation and the establishment of man and woman, and then the fall, and the fall is a consequence of overweening pride and overreach, right?

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Adam and Eve bite off more than they can chew, and suffering enters the world, and that's very much worth contemplating because the degree to which suffering characterizes existence as a consequence of prideful overreach is an open question. No, I mean, because we're mortal and fragile, a certain degree of suffering seems built into the structure of existence.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Adam and Eve bite off more than they can chew, and suffering enters the world, and that's very much worth contemplating because the degree to which suffering characterizes existence as a consequence of prideful overreach is an open question. No, I mean, because we're mortal and fragile, a certain degree of suffering seems built into the structure of existence.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Adam and Eve bite off more than they can chew, and suffering enters the world, and that's very much worth contemplating because the degree to which suffering characterizes existence as a consequence of prideful overreach is an open question. No, I mean, because we're mortal and fragile, a certain degree of suffering seems built into the structure of existence.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

It's the finite against the infinite, that conundrum. But true suffering has this hellish aspect that you can only attain if you bring it on yourself. And the best way to do that is through pride. And I think the story of Adam and Eve, the fall of Adam and Eve, actually details out the particularities of the prideful sin that each sex is most prone to.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

It's the finite against the infinite, that conundrum. But true suffering has this hellish aspect that you can only attain if you bring it on yourself. And the best way to do that is through pride. And I think the story of Adam and Eve, the fall of Adam and Eve, actually details out the particularities of the prideful sin that each sex is most prone to.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

It's the finite against the infinite, that conundrum. But true suffering has this hellish aspect that you can only attain if you bring it on yourself. And the best way to do that is through pride. And I think the story of Adam and Eve, the fall of Adam and Eve, actually details out the particularities of the prideful sin that each sex is most prone to.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

So it's a kind of hyper-compassionate all-inclusion on the part of Eve, and it's a part of pathological attempt to impress the other on the part of Adam, cowardly, and then to blame. And that produces this collapse of paradise. Then you get the establishment of these two sacrificial patterns in the story of Cain and Abel.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

So it's a kind of hyper-compassionate all-inclusion on the part of Eve, and it's a part of pathological attempt to impress the other on the part of Adam, cowardly, and then to blame. And that produces this collapse of paradise. Then you get the establishment of these two sacrificial patterns in the story of Cain and Abel.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

So it's a kind of hyper-compassionate all-inclusion on the part of Eve, and it's a part of pathological attempt to impress the other on the part of Adam, cowardly, and then to blame. And that produces this collapse of paradise. Then you get the establishment of these two sacrificial patterns in the story of Cain and Abel.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

which is brilliant, brilliant, immediate follow-up from a narrative perspective. And then as you said, you get a story of the forms of society that are likely to prevail if prideful overreach is the name of the game. You get a collapse into chaos, and that's clearly the story of Noah. That's all of its symbolic associations.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

which is brilliant, brilliant, immediate follow-up from a narrative perspective. And then as you said, you get a story of the forms of society that are likely to prevail if prideful overreach is the name of the game. You get a collapse into chaos, and that's clearly the story of Noah. That's all of its symbolic associations.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

which is brilliant, brilliant, immediate follow-up from a narrative perspective. And then as you said, you get a story of the forms of society that are likely to prevail if prideful overreach is the name of the game. You get a collapse into chaos, and that's clearly the story of Noah. That's all of its symbolic associations.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Or you get the rise of the all-seeing eye of Sauron, and that's the Tower of Babel. And the consequence of the rise of the totalitarian state is that words themselves lose their meaning. And we're certainly at that point in our society because we can't even agree on what constitutes a man and a woman, which is, I think, by the way, the most fundamental perceptual distinction.

The Ben Shapiro Show
We Who Wrestle With God | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Or you get the rise of the all-seeing eye of Sauron, and that's the Tower of Babel. And the consequence of the rise of the totalitarian state is that words themselves lose their meaning. And we're certainly at that point in our society because we can't even agree on what constitutes a man and a woman, which is, I think, by the way, the most fundamental perceptual distinction.