Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

And you might say, well, if...

talents and abilities are distributed unequally, how can there be any justice?

And the answer to that might be, if you're fortunate, you better pay for it somehow.

And one of the things you see with people who are very intelligent is that they fall prey to the temptation of pride.

And that temptation for intelligent people is proportionate to the degree of their intelligence.

And I would say,

the potential downside of their gift gone astray is sufficiently great to be the factor on the other side of the scale.

So if you're intelligent and you're proud of that and you get arrogant, that will take you places that you couldn't go if you weren't that bright, and those aren't going to be places that you're particularly going to enjoy being.

And so with every gift comes an equivalent temptation, and with every talent comes an equivalent responsibility.

And I really do believe that's the case.

I think that if nothing else, if you are unfairly privileged and you don't make much of that, if you don't offer other people the benefit of your privilege, then you'll take yourself apart in one way or another.

And so Ivan's a very intelligent man, and he's very prideful as a consequence, and that doesn't work out very well for him.

And he points to the suffering of children as his evidence against the existence of God.

And when I was talking to Stephen Fry earlier,

He did something that was similar.

And I found this extremely interesting because, first of all, he talked about his interest in mythology.

And then he made a claim, which I believe to be untrue, that the mythology upon which are the stories, the deep stories, because that's what I mean when I say mythology, the deep stories upon which our culture are predicated, essentially the biblical stories, were of mythology.

perhaps inferior quality to other collections of ancient stories that we have accumulated.

And that surprised me, because that's by no means evident to me.

And I know a reasonable amount about mythology, and I've...