Dr Judith Mohring
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And if you have ADHD, how you are now could be really different from how you are in half an hour or even an hour because the tide may be in or it may be out. Does that analogy make sense to you?
And if you have ADHD, how you are now could be really different from how you are in half an hour or even an hour because the tide may be in or it may be out. Does that analogy make sense to you?
Yeah, drastic mood swings. And so you get told you're moody or you get told you're difficult because it's like, but you were different yesterday. Who are you today? And it's almost like your neuroscience is kind of quasi gaslighting you because of this variability.
Yeah, drastic mood swings. And so you get told you're moody or you get told you're difficult because it's like, but you were different yesterday. Who are you today? And it's almost like your neuroscience is kind of quasi gaslighting you because of this variability.
Now, I'm going to caveat that with the fact that this is, there are a few papers that show this difference and it's called the difference in tonic, which is resting, dopamine and phasic, which is dopamine on. when we are rewarded or stimulated. So there are a few papers that reference this. And from talking to experts in the field, this is what we think is going on.
Now, I'm going to caveat that with the fact that this is, there are a few papers that show this difference and it's called the difference in tonic, which is resting, dopamine and phasic, which is dopamine on. when we are rewarded or stimulated. So there are a few papers that reference this. And from talking to experts in the field, this is what we think is going on.
It's very hard to evidence in live people, but we do have a few studies.
It's very hard to evidence in live people, but we do have a few studies.
So there's a couple of things that happen after diagnosis. And I think the first thing to say is that neurodiversity, I tend to say this when I'm teaching doctors, neurodiversity is like the soil in which other conditions grow. So neurodiversity isn't, it's not a disease. You can be diagnosed neurodivergent with ADHD or autism. You can be diagnosed with it, but it's actually a way of being wired.
So there's a couple of things that happen after diagnosis. And I think the first thing to say is that neurodiversity, I tend to say this when I'm teaching doctors, neurodiversity is like the soil in which other conditions grow. So neurodiversity isn't, it's not a disease. You can be diagnosed neurodivergent with ADHD or autism. You can be diagnosed with it, but it's actually a way of being wired.
It's who you are. But within that way of being wired, other conditions can grow. So you might be neurodivergent and also have severe anxiety or or OCD, or an addiction problem, or any of these other issues.
It's who you are. But within that way of being wired, other conditions can grow. So you might be neurodivergent and also have severe anxiety or or OCD, or an addiction problem, or any of these other issues.
And so what we see is, first of all, we see that people say, well, my ADHD is a bit better under control now, but I'm still struggling with OCD symptoms, or I'm still struggling with an addiction problem or an eating disorder. So we see that. So we see that shifting. And we also see the, you know, you and I talked earlier about coming out. That kind of, oh, now it all makes sense.
And so what we see is, first of all, we see that people say, well, my ADHD is a bit better under control now, but I'm still struggling with OCD symptoms, or I'm still struggling with an addiction problem or an eating disorder. So we see that. So we see that shifting. And we also see the, you know, you and I talked earlier about coming out. That kind of, oh, now it all makes sense.
And I definitely had, you know, I read your book and thought, yep, now it all makes sense. So for me, coming out with ADHD was like, oh, that's why my nickname for myself is Last Minute Lucy. So you have this kind of mixture of shame and relief. And it takes time. It takes probably two or three years to really kind of come to terms with the fact that your life has been,
And I definitely had, you know, I read your book and thought, yep, now it all makes sense. So for me, coming out with ADHD was like, oh, that's why my nickname for myself is Last Minute Lucy. So you have this kind of mixture of shame and relief. And it takes time. It takes probably two or three years to really kind of come to terms with the fact that your life has been,
Yeah, I think it's difficult to explain to somebody that there's an invisible difference in your brain that means that you experience the world in a different way. And so there's a lot of dismissing. So people like to be ridiculous. So I've had, you know, really, you know, very clever, very well off people saying, you know, neurodiversity is a fad, neurodiversity is indulgent.
Yeah, I think it's difficult to explain to somebody that there's an invisible difference in your brain that means that you experience the world in a different way. And so there's a lot of dismissing. So people like to be ridiculous. So I've had, you know, really, you know, very clever, very well off people saying, you know, neurodiversity is a fad, neurodiversity is indulgent.
uh this is a middle class diagnosis you want special treatment so there's dismissal um there's often a lot of shame within adhd the way adhd world anyway because of that whole kind of why can't you be more normal and why do you keep screwing up in this very particular way so there's the shame piece there's the dismissing um and then also there's the power dynamics that if you're a young person in a business you know you and i run our own businesses so we are lucky that we can uh
uh this is a middle class diagnosis you want special treatment so there's dismissal um there's often a lot of shame within adhd the way adhd world anyway because of that whole kind of why can't you be more normal and why do you keep screwing up in this very particular way so there's the shame piece there's the dismissing um and then also there's the power dynamics that if you're a young person in a business you know you and i run our own businesses so we are lucky that we can uh