Dr. Julie Schwartz Gottman

It has. It has. OK, I accept that. What it tells us. See, you guys have already had an interaction, right? Yeah. You just had interaction and you sat. You took it in. It was critical. It put you down a lot.

Yep. So basically, when your heart rate goes over 100 beats a minute, it means you feel attacked. That's what it means. And your body is reacting as you would if you were facing a saber-toothed tiger.

Yep. So basically, when your heart rate goes over 100 beats a minute, it means you feel attacked. That's what it means. And your body is reacting as you would if you were facing a saber-toothed tiger.

Yep. So basically, when your heart rate goes over 100 beats a minute, it means you feel attacked. That's what it means. And your body is reacting as you would if you were facing a saber-toothed tiger.

Heart rate goes up. So, you know what would be good to do, guys, is if we could just watch you for, you know, five minutes or something, just talk about a problem you guys haven't solved, whatever it is. We'll just watch and see where we might be able to shift things a little bit.

Heart rate goes up. So, you know what would be good to do, guys, is if we could just watch you for, you know, five minutes or something, just talk about a problem you guys haven't solved, whatever it is. We'll just watch and see where we might be able to shift things a little bit.

Heart rate goes up. So, you know what would be good to do, guys, is if we could just watch you for, you know, five minutes or something, just talk about a problem you guys haven't solved, whatever it is. We'll just watch and see where we might be able to shift things a little bit.

Does that sound okay? Okay.

Does that sound okay? Okay.

Does that sound okay? Okay.

Jordan, can I point out something? Human beings are pack animals. We need each other. We depend on each other. And in fact, we can't survive unless we have connection.

Jordan, can I point out something? Human beings are pack animals. We need each other. We depend on each other. And in fact, we can't survive unless we have connection.

Jordan, can I point out something? Human beings are pack animals. We need each other. We depend on each other. And in fact, we can't survive unless we have connection.

Wait, Conan. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And the fact that this relationship is not a healthy connection, it doesn't feel good to you, and that's getting highlighted a little bit.

Wait, Conan. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And the fact that this relationship is not a healthy connection, it doesn't feel good to you, and that's getting highlighted a little bit.

Wait, Conan. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And the fact that this relationship is not a healthy connection, it doesn't feel good to you, and that's getting highlighted a little bit.

Okay. So what you're saying is that that's not a personal need. What that is, is trying to control his interaction with you.

Okay. So what you're saying is that that's not a personal need. What that is, is trying to control his interaction with you.

Okay. So what you're saying is that that's not a personal need. What that is, is trying to control his interaction with you.

Okay, so flip it on its head.