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Dr. Junius Johnson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
387 total appearances

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The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And I think I agree with you.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

I think that's what Dante's on about.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

It's not about becoming other than what we are.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

It's about breaking through the glass ceiling of what we always thought it could mean to be human, which is really less of a transhumanism than it is a true humanism, right?

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

But it requires a radical reorientation from the humanity that we've always known.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Yeah, and Dante's biggest theological influences are Aquinas and Bonaventure.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And both of them, when you look at their Christology, it's a very souped-up humanity that Jesus has.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Aquinas says that the human nature of Christ, his human mind and human soul, have the fullness of beatific vision from the moment of conception.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And then it just gets even more souped up from there.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And so he's got a lot of room to grow what it means to be human and what excellencies are possible for humans beyond what the modern conception generally allows for.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Yeah, I would say that it's actually โ€“ well, and this is a bit like what we talked about with Purgatorio, right?

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

That it's โ€“ the goal is to get to the glorified humanity that we had never seen except for the foretaste we got in the resurrected Christ.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

But we have to pass through the prelapsarian humanity to get there.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Right.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And I think that's kind of what you'll see the Pilgrim on as he's going through this journey.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

He's more like Adam perhaps in this first sphere of the moon, but he will have greatly exceeded Adam by the time he ascends to the Prima Mobile.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Yeah, that's right.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

Well, one of the things that comes up a lot when I'm teaching this text, especially to Protestant students, is the question of hierarchy and the idea that some people deserve more glory than others.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

And that doesn't sit well with people.

The Classical Mind
Paradiso with Dr. Jonathan Juilfs

It ought to have come up in Inferno, right?