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Dr. Karolina Westlund

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Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

Yeah. Sadly, I think that, and I'm not sure that I have any backup in any scientific studies here, but I suspect at least that probably early weaning predisposed dogs to insecure attachment.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

Yeah, as an ethologist, sort of looking at how the species live in the wild, what type of social interactions they have, and how can we best provide an environment to sort of promote natural behavior. For me, eight weeks is way too early. So we have some studies from the, I don't know, 60s or something.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

Yeah, as an ethologist, sort of looking at how the species live in the wild, what type of social interactions they have, and how can we best provide an environment to sort of promote natural behavior. For me, eight weeks is way too early. So we have some studies from the, I don't know, 60s or something.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

Yeah, as an ethologist, sort of looking at how the species live in the wild, what type of social interactions they have, and how can we best provide an environment to sort of promote natural behavior. For me, eight weeks is way too early. So we have some studies from the, I don't know, 60s or something.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

where I think two researchers called Scott and Fuller did some separation studies, but that was with dogs aged like three, four, five, six weeks. And they found that that type of early separation was really detrimental.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

where I think two researchers called Scott and Fuller did some separation studies, but that was with dogs aged like three, four, five, six weeks. And they found that that type of early separation was really detrimental.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

where I think two researchers called Scott and Fuller did some separation studies, but that was with dogs aged like three, four, five, six weeks. And they found that that type of early separation was really detrimental.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

But as far as I know, there's been very few studies done beyond eight weeks. And of course, many people would then say that, okay, well, we have to do all that socialization stuff where the animal learns to sort of accept life with humans. That would then have to occur at the breeders rather than in the new environment.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

But as far as I know, there's been very few studies done beyond eight weeks. And of course, many people would then say that, okay, well, we have to do all that socialization stuff where the animal learns to sort of accept life with humans. That would then have to occur at the breeders rather than in the new environment.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

But as far as I know, there's been very few studies done beyond eight weeks. And of course, many people would then say that, okay, well, we have to do all that socialization stuff where the animal learns to sort of accept life with humans. That would then have to occur at the breeders rather than in the new environment.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

But actually, I'm not so sure because it seems that if you have secure attachment... you're better able to self-regulate after being exposed to something that will dysregulate you. So you have an event happening, you get anxious and sort of fearful, and then your nervous system... is able to calm down again.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

But actually, I'm not so sure because it seems that if you have secure attachment... you're better able to self-regulate after being exposed to something that will dysregulate you. So you have an event happening, you get anxious and sort of fearful, and then your nervous system... is able to calm down again.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

But actually, I'm not so sure because it seems that if you have secure attachment... you're better able to self-regulate after being exposed to something that will dysregulate you. So you have an event happening, you get anxious and sort of fearful, and then your nervous system... is able to calm down again.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

And so I think that if we are, if we simply allow dogs to have secure attachment, then perhaps the need for this, sometimes this socialization procedures are very elaborate.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

And so I think that if we are, if we simply allow dogs to have secure attachment, then perhaps the need for this, sometimes this socialization procedures are very elaborate.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

And so I think that if we are, if we simply allow dogs to have secure attachment, then perhaps the need for this, sometimes this socialization procedures are very elaborate.

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

There's like a list of a hundred things that the dog needs to be exposed to, you know, men with beards and children age 12 and people with shoes, you know, certain types of shoes and, you know, the vacuum cleaner and so on and so on. There's a whole list of things that you need to expose an animal to. And I would think that if the animal is

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

There's like a list of a hundred things that the dog needs to be exposed to, you know, men with beards and children age 12 and people with shoes, you know, certain types of shoes and, you know, the vacuum cleaner and so on and so on. There's a whole list of things that you need to expose an animal to. And I would think that if the animal is

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

There's like a list of a hundred things that the dog needs to be exposed to, you know, men with beards and children age 12 and people with shoes, you know, certain types of shoes and, you know, the vacuum cleaner and so on and so on. There's a whole list of things that you need to expose an animal to. And I would think that if the animal is

Huberman Lab
What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

is securely attached so that they have learned self regulation, being exposed to those things will not be such a big deal. But I don't think that we have the research to back up that assertion quite yet.