Dr. Kate Lister
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that you cannot steal or damage or destroy any official records because there's actually very few left from the Harding administration. She had burned them all just to make sure all the pornographic stuff was gone.
that you cannot steal or damage or destroy any official records because there's actually very few left from the Harding administration. She had burned them all just to make sure all the pornographic stuff was gone.
that you cannot steal or damage or destroy any official records because there's actually very few left from the Harding administration. She had burned them all just to make sure all the pornographic stuff was gone.
Well, let's just examine the story and how it came about. When he was a young lawyer in Springfield, Illinois, he needed a couple of rooms to rent. And he met a young man named Joshua Speed, and they became roommates. And they slept in a single bed, which was very customary for the time. People didn't have their own space the way we do now.
Well, let's just examine the story and how it came about. When he was a young lawyer in Springfield, Illinois, he needed a couple of rooms to rent. And he met a young man named Joshua Speed, and they became roommates. And they slept in a single bed, which was very customary for the time. People didn't have their own space the way we do now.
Well, let's just examine the story and how it came about. When he was a young lawyer in Springfield, Illinois, he needed a couple of rooms to rent. And he met a young man named Joshua Speed, and they became roommates. And they slept in a single bed, which was very customary for the time. People didn't have their own space the way we do now.
If you were a man traveling and you booked a bed in an inn, you might find two or three other people in the bed, complete strangers. Now, that didn't mean you were having a gay orgy. It just meant that's what the sleeping arrangements were for the time. True. had a member of the same sex, a lady-in-waiting, or a gentleman of the bedchamber sleeping with them, if only for warmth in the winter.
If you were a man traveling and you booked a bed in an inn, you might find two or three other people in the bed, complete strangers. Now, that didn't mean you were having a gay orgy. It just meant that's what the sleeping arrangements were for the time. True. had a member of the same sex, a lady-in-waiting, or a gentleman of the bedchamber sleeping with them, if only for warmth in the winter.
If you were a man traveling and you booked a bed in an inn, you might find two or three other people in the bed, complete strangers. Now, that didn't mean you were having a gay orgy. It just meant that's what the sleeping arrangements were for the time. True. had a member of the same sex, a lady-in-waiting, or a gentleman of the bedchamber sleeping with them, if only for warmth in the winter.
It was usually so cold. So that's the story. They had a lifelong friendship. And then in 1999, a gay activist and historian named Larry Kramer claimed that he had dug up Speed's diary and all of these salacious letters about him and his sexual relationship with Lincoln. He never showed them. And he wrote a novel shortly afterward about this relationship.
It was usually so cold. So that's the story. They had a lifelong friendship. And then in 1999, a gay activist and historian named Larry Kramer claimed that he had dug up Speed's diary and all of these salacious letters about him and his sexual relationship with Lincoln. He never showed them. And he wrote a novel shortly afterward about this relationship.
It was usually so cold. So that's the story. They had a lifelong friendship. And then in 1999, a gay activist and historian named Larry Kramer claimed that he had dug up Speed's diary and all of these salacious letters about him and his sexual relationship with Lincoln. He never showed them. And he wrote a novel shortly afterward about this relationship.
I think he was just doing this hoax to sell his novel. Now, if anyone found this material, that should be a nonfiction work, which would sell millions of copies. So I think that it's just a hoax.
I think he was just doing this hoax to sell his novel. Now, if anyone found this material, that should be a nonfiction work, which would sell millions of copies. So I think that it's just a hoax.
I think he was just doing this hoax to sell his novel. Now, if anyone found this material, that should be a nonfiction work, which would sell millions of copies. So I think that it's just a hoax.
Yeah, they were roommates and good friends. I just, I don't see it as being a... a gay relationship, especially, you know, and the rumors didn't really come out until this man said he found the diary that he never showed anybody.
Yeah, they were roommates and good friends. I just, I don't see it as being a... a gay relationship, especially, you know, and the rumors didn't really come out until this man said he found the diary that he never showed anybody.
Yeah, they were roommates and good friends. I just, I don't see it as being a... a gay relationship, especially, you know, and the rumors didn't really come out until this man said he found the diary that he never showed anybody.
No, and you know, I don't blame him to tell you the truth. I mean, that wasn't a situation like with Harding or with JFK, where they were just sexually depraved.
No, and you know, I don't blame him to tell you the truth. I mean, that wasn't a situation like with Harding or with JFK, where they were just sexually depraved.