Dr. Kate Lister

And I don't think Byron...

Wanted you to.

In fact, there's a sense when you're reading any of the many letters about him that he was playing up to it in many ways, that he was trying to be as sensational as possible because that was a reputation.

Fame was very, very important to him.

But no, we don't read his poems anymore, but we should.

There's some crackers.

He wrote, when Shelley died, he drowned young.

Byron was there and they had to burn his body on the beach because of hygiene reasons.

I know it's all very, very grim, isn't it?

But he writes this amazing poem about his mate Shelley called We Go Nomura Roving.

And he's lost his mate and he's lost his kindred spirit.

And that's a really beautiful one.

And then there's the famous, she walked in beauty clad like the night.

And he writes that about, I think that's about Teresa, one of his last great loves.

But we don't tend to read really long epic poems like Don Jewan and Childe Harold anymore.

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