Dr. Katriona O'Sullivan

But then I also had my mom talked a lot about the way I looked.

I'm a very beautiful child and I'm a beautiful woman.

But I suppose I felt my value was tied to how I looked.

And a lot of women's values are taught to them about the way they look, whether it's we see that in social media, we see it in the pressure to stay small.

to stay smooth, to keep our bodies looking young.

But in my case, I had a mother, particularly my mum and other people, friends and family, who had just really rewarded me for the way I looked.

So I kind of built these connections that looking a certain way was tied to my value.

And then I had really traumatic experiences in my body that...

I kind of thought these must be because of the way I looked, because these bad things happened.

I kind of connected these things with my body.

These bad things that happened were maybe to do with the way my body looked.

Maybe if I wasn't a pretty little girl, maybe if I didn't have lovely hair, maybe if I didn't move like these, these men wouldn't have done the things that they did to me.

So that kind of like, I kind of got these connections that were extraneous.

They weren't meant to be together.

But because I lived in a world where nobody communicated about them things and I had no space to talk,

I really kind of got this sense that my body was a bad thing and that I was attracting bad things to my body because of the way I looked.

Yeah, but like I've lived through five trends now of women.

So I'm 49.

So I've lived through Kate Moss, Kim Wilde, actually.

I was going to say Kim Wilde.