Dr. Kaveh Hoda

Yeah, that's right. I mean, even here in the San Francisco Bay Area, you know, I've seen more vaccine hesitation than I remember ever seeing before in the past.

Yeah, that's right. I mean, even here in the San Francisco Bay Area, you know, I've seen more vaccine hesitation than I remember ever seeing before in the past.

I would add, though, I agree with you on pretty much all of that. I agree that we need to have those conversations, even if they're difficult. We need to be able to look back objectively about things that worked and didn't work. But a lot of these sort of mea culpa's that have come out about like, you know, this is what we went wrong and why we lost trust.

I would add, though, I agree with you on pretty much all of that. I agree that we need to have those conversations, even if they're difficult. We need to be able to look back objectively about things that worked and didn't work. But a lot of these sort of mea culpa's that have come out about like, you know, this is what we went wrong and why we lost trust.

I would add, though, I agree with you on pretty much all of that. I agree that we need to have those conversations, even if they're difficult. We need to be able to look back objectively about things that worked and didn't work. But a lot of these sort of mea culpa's that have come out about like, you know, this is what we went wrong and why we lost trust.

If I'm being honest, including that one from Ashish Jha, it has a lot of, in my opinion, pick me energy, right? A lot of people who are trying to appeal to the incoming administration and be like, hey, look, I'm cool, too. I'm not always about vaccines. And to me, that's just as bad, too. And I do think we need to have an honest conversation.

If I'm being honest, including that one from Ashish Jha, it has a lot of, in my opinion, pick me energy, right? A lot of people who are trying to appeal to the incoming administration and be like, hey, look, I'm cool, too. I'm not always about vaccines. And to me, that's just as bad, too. And I do think we need to have an honest conversation.

If I'm being honest, including that one from Ashish Jha, it has a lot of, in my opinion, pick me energy, right? A lot of people who are trying to appeal to the incoming administration and be like, hey, look, I'm cool, too. I'm not always about vaccines. And to me, that's just as bad, too. And I do think we need to have an honest conversation.

And I do think we need to be clear about how we do science, something we need to be able to explain. And you're absolutely right, which we didn't do very well. is, look, we are working with information we have at hand. We're doing everything we can. This information may change. When it changes, our recommendations are going to change too. And that is tough.

And I do think we need to be clear about how we do science, something we need to be able to explain. And you're absolutely right, which we didn't do very well. is, look, we are working with information we have at hand. We're doing everything we can. This information may change. When it changes, our recommendations are going to change too. And that is tough.

And I do think we need to be clear about how we do science, something we need to be able to explain. And you're absolutely right, which we didn't do very well. is, look, we are working with information we have at hand. We're doing everything we can. This information may change. When it changes, our recommendations are going to change too. And that is tough.

That is a tough message to get across because people don't like nuance like that. People don't like the uncertainty of that. People want to know yes or no, absolutely. And sometimes it's hard. It's hard to find good communicators in science to do that. But you're exactly right. It is incumbent upon us

That is a tough message to get across because people don't like nuance like that. People don't like the uncertainty of that. People want to know yes or no, absolutely. And sometimes it's hard. It's hard to find good communicators in science to do that. But you're exactly right. It is incumbent upon us

That is a tough message to get across because people don't like nuance like that. People don't like the uncertainty of that. People want to know yes or no, absolutely. And sometimes it's hard. It's hard to find good communicators in science to do that. But you're exactly right. It is incumbent upon us

as doctors who have a substack like yours, have a podcast like mine, who are academics, who have a reach to students and beyond to communicate these things. And even though it would be awesome If for the next four years, my podcast was just about farts and poop, I know I have to do a lot of this stuff because I know how important this is now more than ever. So I totally agree.

as doctors who have a substack like yours, have a podcast like mine, who are academics, who have a reach to students and beyond to communicate these things. And even though it would be awesome If for the next four years, my podcast was just about farts and poop, I know I have to do a lot of this stuff because I know how important this is now more than ever. So I totally agree.

as doctors who have a substack like yours, have a podcast like mine, who are academics, who have a reach to students and beyond to communicate these things. And even though it would be awesome If for the next four years, my podcast was just about farts and poop, I know I have to do a lot of this stuff because I know how important this is now more than ever. So I totally agree.

It's going to start with conversations.

It's going to start with conversations.

It's going to start with conversations.