Dr Ken Ó Donnchú

He's extremely well known in a very small area, Irish studies.

And he had a sister who should be recognised in the same regard, Cecile O'Reilly.

Unbelievable scholars, both of them.

They had a brother, and this was kind of a nice way to tie up the book for us.

Their brother, Alfred, was the founder of Cork University Press, who have published this book.

a very famous controversialist and academic in his own day.

He was president of UCC.

Himself and TF fell out and TF got the boot from where he was working in Cork.

And this book was originally published with a different publisher.

So we're delighted that the translation over 100 years later is with the imprint that Alfred founded.

So it kind of came full circle in the end for us.

But the O'Reilly's a fierce, interesting family.

And they still have resonance in our own day.

They're connected to the media world too.

They're descendants.

Well, the book is called Danfoggle.

It's a beautiful book.

Irish epigrams in verse.

I would love to say silence is golden, but unfortunately it doesn't work here on a radio programme.

But we have to leave that conversation there for now.