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Dr. Ken Spielvogel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
626 total appearances

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We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

I am not enjoying it.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

And the reason for that is that what happens when we do pleasurable things?

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

Well, we have a dopamine reward center in the brain.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

okay you have the uh it's called the vta i'm not going to even get into the scientific name for you vta produces dopamine you smoke a cigar richard's brain says god damn that's good dopamine surge goes to the nucleus accumbens nucleus accumbens says wow that really feels good let me tell the frontal cortex

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

Tell us to smoke another cigar.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

That feels good.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

Now let's take another drug that we're both familiar with, meth.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

So meth will take that dopamine amplification and crank it up 10 times that of even cocaine.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

Right.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

So you get this massive surge of dopamine.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

That's why people that use methamphetamine are hooked almost immediately because there's nowhere else.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

There's no other substance that is going to give that of dopamine.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

So now along comes the dopamine traffic cop.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

which is semaglutide, terazepatide, they come along and they squash, I'm not gonna get scientific here, they kinda squash and temper that dopamine response.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

So you don't get that surge.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

And they also do a reset in the brain.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

So where once you're a meth addict, their brain is flooded, rewired,

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

And to get to a place where they're, if we looked at brain imaging to say that their signaling was the same as a non-user, that is gonna take an awful long time.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

And for these drugs, Terzapatide in particular, we see a resetting of the dopamine system in a much more timely fashion.

We're Out of Time
The Future of Addiction Treatment Starts Here: GLP-1s Explained With Dr. Ken Spielvogel

So that's why when you're doing these behaviors that normally gave you, boom, a surge of dopamine, you're not getting that nearly as much.