Dr. Kieran Kennedy

a dude working in mental health to also be bodybuilding.

But for me, it was almost a bit weird that we weren't thinking that those things should go hand in hand because exercise, sport, our diet, our sleep, getting out in nature, we now know that all of these things have a massive kind of part to play when it comes to how our general mental health is doing as well.

So that's definitely true for ADHD as well.

Well, yeah, I mean, I think it's tricky, isn't it?

Because I think doctors are also just people, you know, and I think...

God, we won't even go there.

But I think doctors can have their own vices in so many ways and struggle with similar things.

And I think it's really, really important.

The main part is that doctors are kind of not bringing their personal side of things into recommendations for patients.

But yeah, I mean, God, all of us are just human too.

And so I think doctors can struggle with weight and health and exercise and things just as much as others as well.

That's a really good one.

I mean, I think for me it would be something we've already touched on, which is that sense of, ah, everyone has ADHD now.

Or I've actually even unfortunately heard it from medical colleagues as well in terms of,

oh, this isn't even a real condition.

This is something that's just made up so private psychiatrists can make money and, you know, go away to Europe on their holidays.

You've really dropped me in at the end.

Yeah, shit, I kind of walked into that one, didn't I?

That had nothing to do with my work.

No, but, you know, I think it's that.