Dr. Layne Norton

If they look at studies where they substitute isocalorically, they don't really see a difference on sugar-sweetened beverages or fructose-containing beverages.

I think it was one of the meta-analyses I looked at, which I guess could fall like fruit juices under that as well.

Substitute with what?

So they're looking at isocaloric exchange.

So in randomized controlled trials where they're having people either consuming, say, glucose versus a fructose-containing beverage.

Okay.

So if we look at sugars versus – okay.

Sugars versus other form of carbohydrate.

Okay.

So substitution studies of other forms of carbohydrate.

Right, right.

I mean, again, and I believe one of the meta-analysis I sent was like –

Again, it's hard to get into it, but it was sugar-sweetened beverages when they control for calories.

They don't see some of these deleterious effects on inflammation or body weight or whatever.

But again, I think that's probably a really small percentage of the population because most people don't go – they don't drink a Coke and go, well, that was 40 grams of sugar, so that means I'm not going to have a bowl of cereal.

I mean they're just drinking it on top of whatever their normal diet is, right?

So it's a very, very small percentage of the population.

Now, is it possible at a higher dose of several cans of this stuff a day, could there be some uniquely deleterious effects?

Sure.

I mean, I hope we'll hold open that possibility.