Dr Luke O'Neill

Where you catch it most of all, but it's actually on farms, right?

Because there's loads of rats.

And especially if the rats are like crazy, they're breeding.

And a farmer might, in a barn, might come up against a rat.

Secondly, absolutely entrenched warfare because, and in fact, they reckon, looking back, but it was probably in the First World War from the symptoms that were reported, there were people picking up antivirus in the trenches there.

It could have been Hanta.

Yeah, they reckon it goes back hundreds of years, to be honest, looking at the symptoms that were described.

Because if you're in a trench pad, very close quarters, full of rats, and you're going to pick up the aerosol off the rats.

And then in 1976, another outbreak in Korea, and then someone isolated the virus and identified it.

Well, this is why it's not serious at all.

So Argentina, about 100 cases a year.

Chile has about 80 cases a year.

And it's 67 million people is the population of those two countries.

So in other words, tiny numbers of people get sick with this, you see.

So that's, again, a reason.

That means it doesn't spread very well.

And the reason for that, Pat, is that unlike COVID, you spread it when you're really sick, you know.

And people are very sick and they won't go out and they won't spread it with cold.

But as you may remember, it was asymptomatic.

Asymptomatic, yeah.