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Dr. Mani Menon

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BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

Clayman and I were contemporaries. Clayman finished his residency at the University of Minnesota and went to UT Southwestern to do a fellowship, I think Charlie Park. I did not do a fellowship. I went straight to run the Stone Clinic at Wash U. So when I left Wash U and moved to UMass, I helped recruit Clayman to take my job.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

If I had known that he was going to be so much better than me, I may not have been that anxious to recruit him. A sense of altruism, perhaps. So I introduced him to Bill Catalona, who had just become the chairman, and to Sam Wells, who was the chairman of the Department of Surgery, and helped smooth his transition. Lou was an intern, so I was part of the interviewing team for him.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

If I had known that he was going to be so much better than me, I may not have been that anxious to recruit him. A sense of altruism, perhaps. So I introduced him to Bill Catalona, who had just become the chairman, and to Sam Wells, who was the chairman of the Department of Surgery, and helped smooth his transition. Lou was an intern, so I was part of the interviewing team for him.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

If I had known that he was going to be so much better than me, I may not have been that anxious to recruit him. A sense of altruism, perhaps. So I introduced him to Bill Catalona, who had just become the chairman, and to Sam Wells, who was the chairman of the Department of Surgery, and helped smooth his transition. Lou was an intern, so I was part of the interviewing team for him.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

There were 13 people who interviewed him, and 12 of them thought that he walked on water, and the 13th did not. And I was the 13th, so Lou has never let me forget that. But clearly, it had no impact whatsoever in his getting a residency, and we've been You know, good friends. I've admired him and Ralph Klayman for the tremendous work that they have done.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

There were 13 people who interviewed him, and 12 of them thought that he walked on water, and the 13th did not. And I was the 13th, so Lou has never let me forget that. But clearly, it had no impact whatsoever in his getting a residency, and we've been You know, good friends. I've admired him and Ralph Klayman for the tremendous work that they have done.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

There were 13 people who interviewed him, and 12 of them thought that he walked on water, and the 13th did not. And I was the 13th, so Lou has never let me forget that. But clearly, it had no impact whatsoever in his getting a residency, and we've been You know, good friends. I've admired him and Ralph Klayman for the tremendous work that they have done.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I was interested in kidney stones, and I had the privilege of working with Albert Leninger, the renowned biochemist who wrote the textbook of biochemistry. So I spent a year in his lab. Hopkins at that point had gotten a spore project on calcium transport, but they didn't have anybody in the department who was interested in stones, so they told me, you become the stone person.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I was interested in kidney stones, and I had the privilege of working with Albert Leninger, the renowned biochemist who wrote the textbook of biochemistry. So I spent a year in his lab. Hopkins at that point had gotten a spore project on calcium transport, but they didn't have anybody in the department who was interested in stones, so they told me, you become the stone person.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I was interested in kidney stones, and I had the privilege of working with Albert Leninger, the renowned biochemist who wrote the textbook of biochemistry. So I spent a year in his lab. Hopkins at that point had gotten a spore project on calcium transport, but they didn't have anybody in the department who was interested in stones, so they told me, you become the stone person.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I thought that since we were talking about stones, we should talk not just about calcium transport, we should talk about oxalate transport. On an equimolar concentration, oxalate is 10 times more potent than calcium in causing precipitation. And Dr. Langeau was happy to let me do that because it was a new area for him.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I thought that since we were talking about stones, we should talk not just about calcium transport, we should talk about oxalate transport. On an equimolar concentration, oxalate is 10 times more potent than calcium in causing precipitation. And Dr. Langeau was happy to let me do that because it was a new area for him.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I thought that since we were talking about stones, we should talk not just about calcium transport, we should talk about oxalate transport. On an equimolar concentration, oxalate is 10 times more potent than calcium in causing precipitation. And Dr. Langeau was happy to let me do that because it was a new area for him.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

So as the result, within three months of moving to WashU, I had an NIH grant and a BA grant, which it turns out was pretty remarkable. I mean, WashU had lots of great researchers, but to get two grants, particularly as a surgeon, within three months of starting, it caused people to open their eyes. So once again, I think there were some political issues.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

So as the result, within three months of moving to WashU, I had an NIH grant and a BA grant, which it turns out was pretty remarkable. I mean, WashU had lots of great researchers, but to get two grants, particularly as a surgeon, within three months of starting, it caused people to open their eyes. So once again, I think there were some political issues.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

So as the result, within three months of moving to WashU, I had an NIH grant and a BA grant, which it turns out was pretty remarkable. I mean, WashU had lots of great researchers, but to get two grants, particularly as a surgeon, within three months of starting, it caused people to open their eyes. So once again, I think there were some political issues.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

The department chair, Bill Fair, moved to Memorial Sloan Kettering, and the new department chair, the transition was a little awkward. Dr. Wells, Sam Wells, he promoted me to associate professor with tenure, and I became the youngest clinical tenured professor at Wash U. Again, I didn't lobby for it.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

The department chair, Bill Fair, moved to Memorial Sloan Kettering, and the new department chair, the transition was a little awkward. Dr. Wells, Sam Wells, he promoted me to associate professor with tenure, and I became the youngest clinical tenured professor at Wash U. Again, I didn't lobby for it.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

The department chair, Bill Fair, moved to Memorial Sloan Kettering, and the new department chair, the transition was a little awkward. Dr. Wells, Sam Wells, he promoted me to associate professor with tenure, and I became the youngest clinical tenured professor at Wash U. Again, I didn't lobby for it.

BackTable Urology
Ep. 189 Legends of Urology: Origins of Robotic Surgery with Dr Mani Menon

I didn't know what it meant, but it clearly meant a lot in the narrow world of academic medicine and how we are. So that and the two NIH grants propelled me to the University of Massachusetts, where I became a chair when I was 34, two years out of my residency. Three years, two to three years.