Dr. Mark Moyar
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first heard Mar 2025
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Well, it looks like functions will probably be moved into the State Department. And so I think you'll certainly see some of the functions continue. And Congress has appropriated money. And this is going to be a fight that's coming soon in terms of how much... The executive branch has to say, Congress, we're not going to spend the money you told us to spend.
But I think certainly they're going to have to spend some of it. So they're going to have to find different ways, different people. But again, it looks like the most likely outcome is that it becomes part of the State Department.
Yeah, well, that came out. It didn't get as much attention at the time, because up until this year, USAID was not getting a lot of attention. But this story dates back a couple years, and what happened was that you had... USA Career employees making threats about bombing pregnancy centers and churches, basically radical anti or pro-abortion activists.
And so this was reported to the Office of Security and the Office of Inspector General, the two people I actually, two offices that I tried to get help from. But both of those offices turned a blind eye to this. And so we see that there's this strong ideological bias within these institutions, which are, again, these are the people who are supposed to be safeguarding ethics.
And instead, they're punishing whistleblowers and they're turning a blind eye when people are talking about blowing up churches.
Yeah, that's right.
Yes, well, and, you know, of course, they will try to tell you. Now, I will say, having worked there, there are some people who kind of check their ideology at the door and do what they're told. But there were too many cases in the first Trump term where these bureaucrats surreptitiously are infusing their political beliefs.
And they are convinced that they know better than Trump and the people who voted for him. Yeah. So that's why you think I think you see this reaction in the second Trump term. I think first Trump term, they were slow to pick up on this and it wasn't until 2020. They started to do some things, but now they've clearly realized that the bureaucracy is fundamentally in many ways trying to stop them.
And so they're figuring out how to change things.
Yeah, that's right. And there are cases, if you have really strong political appointees, you can get them under control. That was part of the problem we had at our agency was some of these political appointees, they were there for themselves. They were going to pad their resumes and move on. And the bureaucrats were very good at manipulating them because they would say,
oh, you know, you are the most brilliant person I've ever met. You're doing such a great job here. And so then they would just let the bureaucrats do what they wanted. And the bureaucrats then go and surreptitiously are pushing their agenda and moving money. I mean, they're very good at saying one thing while doing another.
Yes. Well, I got a PhD in military and diplomatic history, wrote several books on the Vietnam War. And unfortunately, in American academia, military history has gone out of fashion. Being a conservative white male is also very out of fashion. It's a combination of those things mean you don't get hired regularly.
at the big universities that give you tenure and so spent some time working in military institutions and think tanks and then when the trump administration came in they were looking for somebody with my skill set which involves some of it involves getting the civilian and military institutions to cooperate. And so I became the head of the Office of Civilian Military Cooperation.
After they fired me, I ended up going back into academia. I'm now teaching at Hillsdale College, which is a great place to be and one of the few places that still rewards the serious teaching of military history and other forms of history.
I know him not well, but he had endorsed one of my earlier books, which I wrote about President Obama's feckless policies. And I first met him because he was an advocate for veterans in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and was, I think very rightly, calling out a lot of the terrible policies we saw out of Barack Obama. And now more recently, he's been calling out the crazy DEI policies
initiatives that took hold in the biden era and and that clearly will be one of his top priorities but he's also looking at refocusing in the military on fighting and not doing a lot of these silly things that it's been doing for the last four years and speaking of dei i'm reading that you was it you let me make sure this is true uh had some sort of perp walk you had to do as a female
Privilege Walk, yes. Yes, this was another shock to me because I came in in February 2018. So this is more than a year into the Trump administration. And they are still putting people through this DEI training. The way that Privilege Walk worked is
is you're given an identity so you have to play somebody else's role so i was a woman of scandinavian descent and then i had to answer the questions or react to them as if i was that person and you had you know a male french development official and you had a woman with unwanted child and a male prostitute and things like that and you all stand in a line and they read you a statement
And depending on who you are, you either step forward or you step back. And questions like, do people make negative stereotypes about you? Or does the president of the country look like you? And so at the end, the white guy is furthest forward, and me being the white female, I was second. And then there's various degrees of separation between people further back.
And so it's a long-used left-wing propaganda tool to try to show that everything is about privilege and that's why some people get ahead better than others. And that's, of course, used to push government socialist policies that will supposedly eliminate these privileges because we know it's not anything you've actually done that might get you ahead in life. It's the privileges you have.
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