Dr. Marty Makary

Yeah.

Yeah.

i mean just because you can do something in science doesn't mean you should and look at you know messing with a bat coronavirus in wuhan or doing these beagle experiments you know they were trying to show that a fly could spread a certain a certain biting type of fly could spread a certain infection well you don't need to do these mad scientist experiments to yeah to know that and if you know it what are you going to do with that information so

i mean just because you can do something in science doesn't mean you should and look at you know messing with a bat coronavirus in wuhan or doing these beagle experiments you know they were trying to show that a fly could spread a certain a certain biting type of fly could spread a certain infection well you don't need to do these mad scientist experiments to yeah to know that and if you know it what are you going to do with that information so

i mean just because you can do something in science doesn't mean you should and look at you know messing with a bat coronavirus in wuhan or doing these beagle experiments you know they were trying to show that a fly could spread a certain a certain biting type of fly could spread a certain infection well you don't need to do these mad scientist experiments to yeah to know that and if you know it what are you going to do with that information so

We're reducing unnecessary animal testing. We're doing it with NIH and Jay Bhattacharya. Yes. And so we're doing a lot of cool stuff, and it's an exciting time.

We're reducing unnecessary animal testing. We're doing it with NIH and Jay Bhattacharya. Yes. And so we're doing a lot of cool stuff, and it's an exciting time.

We're reducing unnecessary animal testing. We're doing it with NIH and Jay Bhattacharya. Yes. And so we're doing a lot of cool stuff, and it's an exciting time.

What happened? We're bringing back science to this process. You know, when I got there, the FDA was just rubber-stamping COVID vaccines and was going to do so in perpetuity every year. So if a girl born today lives 80 years, they would get 85. COVID shots in their lifetime with an FDA just rubber stamping with no clinical trial data every year just approving. So we said we're not doing that.

What happened? We're bringing back science to this process. You know, when I got there, the FDA was just rubber-stamping COVID vaccines and was going to do so in perpetuity every year. So if a girl born today lives 80 years, they would get 85. COVID shots in their lifetime with an FDA just rubber stamping with no clinical trial data every year just approving. So we said we're not doing that.

What happened? We're bringing back science to this process. You know, when I got there, the FDA was just rubber-stamping COVID vaccines and was going to do so in perpetuity every year. So if a girl born today lives 80 years, they would get 85. COVID shots in their lifetime with an FDA just rubber stamping with no clinical trial data every year just approving. So we said we're not doing that.

We're bringing back science. We are going to require for healthy Americans some clinical data to let us know that these COVID shots are still safe and effective. That is, you need them. How do you know you need them? I mean, COVID now is... less virulent, the population immunity is ubiquitous. I mean, with hepatitis B, we say you need two or three shots, depending on the age you start.

We're bringing back science. We are going to require for healthy Americans some clinical data to let us know that these COVID shots are still safe and effective. That is, you need them. How do you know you need them? I mean, COVID now is... less virulent, the population immunity is ubiquitous. I mean, with hepatitis B, we say you need two or three shots, depending on the age you start.

We're bringing back science. We are going to require for healthy Americans some clinical data to let us know that these COVID shots are still safe and effective. That is, you need them. How do you know you need them? I mean, COVID now is... less virulent, the population immunity is ubiquitous. I mean, with hepatitis B, we say you need two or three shots, depending on the age you start.

With MMR, we say two. Why is it with the COVID shots, it's 80? And using the flu model doesn't work because flu's been around for 80 years, and we have a long experience. There have been 40 plus trials on the flu shot. It's a totally different animal. It doesn't, COVID doesn't mutate anywhere near as fast as the influenza virus. So how can you make an honest recommendation without clinical data?

With MMR, we say two. Why is it with the COVID shots, it's 80? And using the flu model doesn't work because flu's been around for 80 years, and we have a long experience. There have been 40 plus trials on the flu shot. It's a totally different animal. It doesn't, COVID doesn't mutate anywhere near as fast as the influenza virus. So how can you make an honest recommendation without clinical data?

With MMR, we say two. Why is it with the COVID shots, it's 80? And using the flu model doesn't work because flu's been around for 80 years, and we have a long experience. There have been 40 plus trials on the flu shot. It's a totally different animal. It doesn't, COVID doesn't mutate anywhere near as fast as the influenza virus. So how can you make an honest recommendation without clinical data?

We're bringing back data.

We're bringing back data.

We're bringing back data.