Dr. Marty Makary
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What happened? We're bringing back science to this process. You know, when I got there, the FDA was just rubber-stamping COVID vaccines and was going to do so in perpetuity every year. So if a girl born today lives 80 years, they would get 85. COVID shots in their lifetime with an FDA just rubber stamping with no clinical trial data every year just approving. So we said we're not doing that.
What happened? We're bringing back science to this process. You know, when I got there, the FDA was just rubber-stamping COVID vaccines and was going to do so in perpetuity every year. So if a girl born today lives 80 years, they would get 85. COVID shots in their lifetime with an FDA just rubber stamping with no clinical trial data every year just approving. So we said we're not doing that.
We're bringing back science. We are going to require for healthy Americans some clinical data to let us know that these COVID shots are still safe and effective. That is, you need them. How do you know you need them? I mean, COVID now is... less virulent, the population immunity is ubiquitous. I mean, with hepatitis B, we say you need two or three shots, depending on the age you start.
We're bringing back science. We are going to require for healthy Americans some clinical data to let us know that these COVID shots are still safe and effective. That is, you need them. How do you know you need them? I mean, COVID now is... less virulent, the population immunity is ubiquitous. I mean, with hepatitis B, we say you need two or three shots, depending on the age you start.
We're bringing back science. We are going to require for healthy Americans some clinical data to let us know that these COVID shots are still safe and effective. That is, you need them. How do you know you need them? I mean, COVID now is... less virulent, the population immunity is ubiquitous. I mean, with hepatitis B, we say you need two or three shots, depending on the age you start.
With MMR, we say two. Why is it with the COVID shots, it's 80? And using the flu model doesn't work because flu's been around for 80 years, and we have a long experience. There have been 40 plus trials on the flu shot. It's a totally different animal. It doesn't, COVID doesn't mutate anywhere near as fast as the influenza virus. So how can you make an honest recommendation without clinical data?
With MMR, we say two. Why is it with the COVID shots, it's 80? And using the flu model doesn't work because flu's been around for 80 years, and we have a long experience. There have been 40 plus trials on the flu shot. It's a totally different animal. It doesn't, COVID doesn't mutate anywhere near as fast as the influenza virus. So how can you make an honest recommendation without clinical data?
With MMR, we say two. Why is it with the COVID shots, it's 80? And using the flu model doesn't work because flu's been around for 80 years, and we have a long experience. There have been 40 plus trials on the flu shot. It's a totally different animal. It doesn't, COVID doesn't mutate anywhere near as fast as the influenza virus. So how can you make an honest recommendation without clinical data?
We're bringing back data.
We're bringing back data.
We're bringing back data.
Well, as you may have seen in the news the last couple days, it turns out the FDA knew about the myocarditis complication in young boys. Yes, swollen hearts. Swollen hearts with now evidence that, say, roughly a third or more will have long-term scar tissue. That is what appears to be permanent.
Well, as you may have seen in the news the last couple days, it turns out the FDA knew about the myocarditis complication in young boys. Yes, swollen hearts. Swollen hearts with now evidence that, say, roughly a third or more will have long-term scar tissue. That is what appears to be permanent.
Well, as you may have seen in the news the last couple days, it turns out the FDA knew about the myocarditis complication in young boys. Yes, swollen hearts. Swollen hearts with now evidence that, say, roughly a third or more will have long-term scar tissue. That is what appears to be permanent.
They knew about the myocarditis complication and did not make a public announcement or disclosure or warning about it until months after when they should have. So this is the sort of stuff that ruins public trust and hurts all of us who are physicians, who need the trust of the public. So we're taking a lot of steps to try to rebuild that public trust.
They knew about the myocarditis complication and did not make a public announcement or disclosure or warning about it until months after when they should have. So this is the sort of stuff that ruins public trust and hurts all of us who are physicians, who need the trust of the public. So we're taking a lot of steps to try to rebuild that public trust.
They knew about the myocarditis complication and did not make a public announcement or disclosure or warning about it until months after when they should have. So this is the sort of stuff that ruins public trust and hurts all of us who are physicians, who need the trust of the public. So we're taking a lot of steps to try to rebuild that public trust.
And one of those steps is to say, show us the data. We're going to be evidence-based.
And one of those steps is to say, show us the data. We're going to be evidence-based.
And one of those steps is to say, show us the data. We're going to be evidence-based.